Why aren't logs required for local work?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Well, that article is wrong then.
    Here is the guidance for fmcsa.
    Question 12: What constitutes the 100-air-mile radius exemption?

    Guidance:

    The term “air mile” is internationally defined as a “nautical mile” which is equivalent to 6,076 feet or 1,852 meters. Thus, the 100 air miles are equivalent to 115.08 statute miles or 185.2 kilometers.

    Now I think the article got the intent of the law correct, but the bureaucrats in D.C. didn't understand law. They used the term "air mile" likely thinking of miles "as the bird flies", but the thing is air miles is a very well defined legal term meaning nautical mile. Since that is the term they used they are stuck with it, and to change it is just too much effort.
     
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  3. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Not necessary, how would you show this on a time card back at the terminal's driver's room?
     
  4. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Just going by your signature.
    You want a chance to rethink your statement?
     
  5. rbrtwbstr

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    I see more mega carriers truck running down the road with fairings flapping in the wind, lights out, bumpers falling off, cracked windshields, oil leaks and flat tires than I care to count.

    The local guys around my area usually have very well maintained, nicer looking equipment. The company I work for runs mostly local, and much of our fleet is less than five years old. DOT doesn't bother us much, because they know they're wasting their time with us.

    #locallivesmatter#!!!!!!
     
  6. ChanoPokes

    ChanoPokes Bobtail Member

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    Rest assured, at some point they will require carriers to all have E LOGS keeping track of every stop. But to ask someone to waste an hour + a day filling a whole book out is ludicrous.

    Within 100 air miles, or only going further than 100mi/8x a month.

    12 hours is a general rule of thumb, but you can also use Oilfield rules in certain circumstances.

    I think that is something like a 16 hour day within a 70 mile radius and a 90 hr max week. With no reset.

    However, I've only broke 70hrs once or twice within 7 days, and a total of 125 hrs in 12 days straight.

    If its not 100 outside its really not a bad way to make a few grand quick.
     
  7. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    I believe he was asking if he needed to log the DVIR.
     
  8. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Sorry I read it differently.
     
  9. ChaoSS

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  10. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Yes, 100 nautical mile radius from your official starting point seems to be the definitive answer.

    And just to clarify that has nothing to do with a DVIR. that is separate.
     
  11. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Move to Hawaii.....no log books required at any time, anywhere ! ! :bootyshake:
     
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