Will Never See Cops the Same Way Again

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Injun, Jun 24, 2011.

  1. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    You're not a single female out alone in a frequently hostile environment. Men are not assaulted, abused, raped, kidnapped, killed or just plain "disappear" in anywhere near the kind of numbers that women do. Not even close. Even just "simple" verbal assaults against women occur with stunning frequency. Your post reminds me of two recent news items; one was a police officer speaking at a college who told the women they wouldn't get raped if they didn't dress like sluts, the other was a judge that handed down a conditional sentence in a sexual assault case and justified it on much the same basis. Both are men and both are appallingly ignorant.



    Then again, perhaps you called in the false "tip"?
     
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  3. dieselbear

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    Otherhalftw,

    Haven't talked to you in a while. I have no idea. But then again I don't know what your scenario was. In that scenario with possible drug dealing, I'm not calling the carrier until I know what is going on. Like I said, I'm not giving someone any indication so they can prepare or laying in wait for me to approach. Sounds like setting myself up for an ambush.
     
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  4. dieselbear

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    We don't have access to it. Only a supervisor, does for the DVD cams. As for the new cameras, they are always recording and when we get near a designated hot spot it automatically uploads to a server. You can't rewind or tape over old footage. Once it's there, it is there. I have no idea what other departments are using or their procedures.
     
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  5. I_HATE_MINIVANS

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    And the owner of the gun shop I get my guns from is a local cop. Also the cop friend I mentioned before is the guy who used to harass me and my friends for riding dirtbikes and go karts on the street when we were teenagers (but never once gave any of us a ticket) and somehow we became friends.

    I've actually been interested in becoming a cop but I don't think my fat *** could handle the physical training required at the academy.

    Both of these cop friends I have acknowledges that there are good cops and bad cops. The bad ones are the ones who belong behind bars, and not in "protective custody" either. General pop.
     
  6. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    There are two scenarios that are completely plausible. First my own opinion, he was up to no good. Or he would have parked his car where it could be seen. His excuse for not doing that: He didn't want to cause me embarassment. DB and SM: Since when is that even a consideration?? I went through the academy and have been "out on the beat" with deputies. They never, ever mentioned that EVER.

    Second, someone touched on this. He said, with his own mouth, when he had to make the report of my injuries because CHP showed up: "You and I both know most truckers are on drugs." I simply nodded my head. Disagreeing with him didn't seem like such a great idea.

    Had he been on the up-and-up and his initial approach been less aggressive, this event would have played out entirely differently. He set the tone for the encounter. I have never been approached in that manner by any LEO. Even when I was under suspicion for a horendous crime because I looked similar to the woman who did it and because of my associations. The police were always professional. This one was most definitely not.
     
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  7. dieselbear

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    Nothing that little bit of PT and running couldn't take care of.
     
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  8. dieselbear

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    Never cared about that. It is what it is. But I've never worried about embarrassing someone. Even when I used to catch people naked while they were "parking".
     
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  9. lostNfound

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    I use that one all the time with shippers.







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  10. kajidono

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    The fact that he started out yelling and dragged her out in her nightgown blows that feeble excuse out of the water.
     
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  11. iron-oxide

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    Everyone has heard of situations like this... REPEATEDLY. That this happens so often, should raise red flags of its own. It's a problem that needs to be addressed.

    Yes, the deputies life is just as important as anyone else's life. The BIG difference is that LEOs signed up for this duty, and are being paid to put their lives at risk, whereas innocent civilians did not, and are not. (I'm not going to argue about whether police salary is adequate, or not. They signed up for it.)

    Maybe nothing was done that you and your friends consider out of line, but at least to me, plenty was done that I consider way out of line, starting with the initial contact, and escalating from there.

    Never mind that so-called tip is pure hearsay at this point. That's something that should be at the forefront of the LEOs mind, right along with making sure he lives to tell about the encounter. If your suspect is likely dangerous, then I'd suggest you get some more backup before you go beating on that door. Safety in numbers helps.

    As far as overly dramatic goes, no, sorry, when your constitutional rights get stomped on, I would hope you scream and shout from the highest hilltops. I don't want people to be nice little sheeple and allow themselves to be trampled by those with power.

    I think that if you read back through the posts, Injun was actually injured here. So, it seems to be a little more than ego that you are so quick to dismiss.

    Both the LEO and the trucker's jobs are harsh. Nobody disagrees, and nobody wants to see anyone else hurt.

    It would be good to hear the opposing viewpoint. It may not be fair, but I suspect that viewpoint will be something along the lines of what has already been discussed (i.e. LEO's life may be in danger, fear of the unknown, been there too many times, bought the t-shirt, assume the suspect is dangerous, etc.). This is a broken record lately. It's in the news almost every day, it seems.

    I respect police officers, and sympathize with them that they have a difficult job, but I feel that a lot of them are a bit power hungry, and go way overboard much of the time. I've noticed this a lot more in the young men and women, versus older, more experienced officers. It's anecdotal, and just my opinion, so I have no statistics to back it up.

    With great power comes great responsibility...
     
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