winter apu

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Mountain Hummingbird, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. Mountain Hummingbird

    Mountain Hummingbird Medium Load Member

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    \I have read a lot on here lately about drivers not being able to start their trucks after running the apu all night and leaving the truck turned off. Well depending on the apu and how it was installed has a lot to do with this. An apu is a diesel motor hooked to an electrical generator, an air conditioner compressor, and a heating unit. Some have their own alternators others the cheaper ones use the trucks batteries and have no alternator. Some hook up to the trucks cooling system others do not. The one's that hook up to the trucks cooling system need to be under load to do any heating of the trucks engine. So you need to put a load on the generator part of the system and shut off the heat into the sleeper for them to have any effect on the trucks engine temp. A couple ceramic heaters in the bunk will keep you toasty and put a load on the system. Next uninsulated heater hoses do not hold heat long, cheap water pipe insulation from you friendly ACE store will help a lot.
     
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  3. jason6541

    jason6541 Road Train Member

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    I have tri pac that's tied into cooling system of trk. I have a fuel fired bunk heater, also tank heaters are plumbed into cooling system, trk is also equipped with a 3000 watt inverter and my block heater is plugged into it. This combination ensures trk starts even at -40. Just some more ideas for some to ponder is all
     
  4. dieselfuelonly

    dieselfuelonly Road Train Member

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    My tripac is set up like jason's is - the engine powers an alternator (not a generator) and an a/c compressor as well. I have a diesel-fired bunk heater that uses a 12v fan and burns diesel fuel from the tanks to heat the cab when the engine is off. My APU's engine is tied into the trucks coolant loop but heating is provided solely from the bunk heater and not from any coolant being circulated through a heater core.

    When I'm at home I leave the climate control panel switched on, and the APU button set to on (so the APU engine can start) but I press the mode button on the control panel until none of the lights are on for temperature control - i.e. it doesn't maintain a set temperature in the cab. In this mode however, it does monitor battery voltage - so when my battery voltage drops down past a certain point from my fridge being on, GPS being left plugged in, etc., etc., the engine starts up and keeps the batteries topped off. Of course whenever the APU's engine is running it circulates and warms up the coolant so I'm not starting a dead-cold engine when I leave out, either.
     
  5. Wolfyinc

    Wolfyinc Road Train Member

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    my truck just has the webasto diesel powered heater, the truck is shut down right now for a 34 in freezing temps so might be fun when I go Tuesday morning to see if it will even start up.
     
  6. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    I had the same setup. I wouldn't trust it down in subzero temperatures. I forget the exact amount but you are looking around 18 gallons of coolant it has to keep warm. You get so cold that little engine starts losing the battle.
     
  7. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    APU users should also understand even a well-configured APU does little to help keep the engine block warm, and do nothing to keep fuel (in the truck fuel filters and primary fuel lines) from reaching outside ambient temp. The little bit of warm fuel the APU recirculates into the tanks is pretty much irrelevant in terms of anti-gelling benefit where it counts.
     
  8. jason6541

    jason6541 Road Train Member

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    That's why i have a big inverter and keep block heater plugged in when engine off. Trk starts just fine after a night in -30 or colder. But also use fleet guard fuel antigel.
     
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