As owner-operators and carriers we need to take the lead in educating all the new drivers and o/o as to how we are being robbed by the brokers, load finders and agents and brokerage companies daily . During this period of "recovery" where the fuel cost more and these brokers are cheating us everyway possible . Just to name a few ways they are sticking it to US is they are shorting the miles and they are calling what was once full rate loads are now "partial or LTL" . These loads are still paying 1.00 a mile i have never seen a 20,000lb 40ft load that was a "partial" but thay do this so thay don't have to pay for a full load. They are wanting expadited service to boot .
For you who don't realize this WE are the main part of the freight hauling equation .without US nothing will go anywhere . if the broker goes out of bussiness WE can still haul the freight WITHOUT THEM . WE have the authority to haul without them or the brokerage companies or any of them . These are the ones who should be trying to keep US HAPPY not the other way around ! What we need to do is take every opportunity we can to explain to everyone of our brethren truckers how We are the "REAL SHOTCALLERS" in this. If we would just tell them HELL NO WE"RE not hauling your cheap ### freight things would change !
Right now we are disorganized and everyone is too worried about their own little problems not knowing it is the same for all of US . This is how they are continuing to put the screw to US . Each of US should take it upon ourselves to spread the word . The only real choice here is wether you would rather fight by saying NO to cheap freight and show your displeasure by telling these brokers NO THANK YOU I DON"T HAUL CHEAP FREIGHT or DIE THE DEATH OF A THOUSAND PAPER CUTS ! This is the only way to get them to pay US OUR RIGHTFUL PART OF THE MONEY . What is the diffrence you ask well if you continue to haul cheap freight you will eventually go broke . You just don't know it yet . If say no to cheap freight maybe you will be offered a higher rate or you could still go broke . But you want be helpinmg them stingy bas****rds get rich off of your hard work and your truck will be worth more cause it has less miles on it . But consider this if more of US would say NO the rates WOULD have to increase cause EVERYTHING MOVES BY TRUCK at some point .
Now you ask how can I do MY part ? Well I do my part everyday by saying NO to cheap freight . I also try and explain to any driver that will listen about the CPM and how to figure it and how you NEED a good milage program so your not getting screwed on your milage . I know this will fall on lots of deaf ears as there are to few nowdays with any balls at all and fear will grip them . But for those of you who have the "right stuff" We should spread the word every chance we get . Lets help these bad brokers out of bussiness by not hauling for them ! Maybe a honest one will replace them ?
Educating those who don't know is the only way our rates will increase take the time to help your fellow O/O
Well I have done my part today by pissing of two or three of these bottom feeding agents today . I asked one of them "why was this same load three weeks ago paying twice the money"?? He came up with some speil about what a great "partial" load it was . I asked why the miles were so "short" and I was told it was "military" miles which I asked what army runs on them kind of miles ? And I guess they never get to the battle ? I was adbruptly hing up on .
Some ####### will be wearing his truck out for free today .
saying NO to cheap freight
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BAYOU, Jan 5, 2011.
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i'm not an o/o, but that sounds like good advice.
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Bayou, where is the line? What do you consider cheap freight, and at what point do you say no?
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I know what my operation runs like and what I need, in TOTAL, not per load, to make a profit. Everyone else's situations are different and will produce a different answer. -
Kansas, the line is where you know your cpm and daily running costs. If someone doesn't know that then they will not know what is 'cheap' for them. Very rarely will we run our step decks for less than $1.80 per mile. Only then will they run if we have a load lined up close to the drop that pays better than average to help make up for the little bit of loss. My dispatcher also knows what each of us needs on a run per mile to make a profit. No profit, no run. We would rather deadhead out of an area to pick up good freight than pull a load losing money out of an area.
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So, when we all band together and refuse to haul for too cheap, how are we going to decide who gets a load when there are more trucks than loads?
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Good luck saying no to cheap freight, guys. I think you're gonna need it. I pulled plenty of cheap freight in my company driver days. Company would use a cheap broker load to move the truck into better freight areas. As long as the load paid the fuel, company was happy for the run just to move the truck. As long as that happens, cheap freight is here to stay...Just my penny's worth (Can't afford two cents)
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Rusty and Flying Finn Yall can say that again!!!
Cheap freight to me is when your making less than half the money its costing you to do the run. Say you CPM is $.90 a mile and you take a load for $1.65 your hauling cheap freight "who's making the money" fuel co, tire co, oil co,insurance co,the shops that are waiting for your truck to brake down because you just did a load to make $.75 a mile. At present $.75 a mile by the time you take out tires and maintenance and that bill at the shop that equals 8-9 a hour at best in real wages . So whos making the money?
Im in this to "MAKE MONEY/profit" Big co did not get bigger by not making a profit landstar did'nt get that big building on the beach for hauling for cheap!Auctioneer and Flying Finn Thank this. -
Typical difference between a company driver and an O/O. Company drivers could care less since they get paid anyway. Once the company starts having issues because of all the cheap freight they run and pay really low listen to them complain then.
I'll admit, I used to not really care when I was driving for a large carrier as a company driver. Then I started to put two and two together when we were running hot loads to BC in less than 39 hours. With less than 1/8th of a trailer of freight. Once I started actually paying attention to what was spent and made for the runs I could do more to make sure the company made money. Now that I am on the other side of the fence, I care to not run for $1.25 a mile, and expect to live. -
But consider this if more of US would say NO the rates WOULD have to increase cause EVERYTHING MOVES BY TRUCK at some point. Why do you think RGNs make more than step decks because there is not as many and thay don't move stuff cheap is there someone out there that will yes but all it takes is one thing and there "OUT" My buddys truck and trailer is almost $250,000 every 3-5 years he has to get a new set up because its wore out some loads he gets $11 dollers a mile could i do what he does with my truck hell no!
Thats why thay get more money any specialty equipment cost money so the more money it cost the fewer people get into that kind of work less trucks thay get what thay have to too make money
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