Are we gonna Learn?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 2insane, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Most brokers will have bottom feeder rates. They get beggy and I'll sometimes help them out. But I also make it clear to them, I am doing them a solid taking that cheap load.

    It pays when they call you with a REALLY good load that will give you a premium above normal.

    Especially when you save their ### and they will give you a load over another carrier for less money.

    Sometimes, the service earned on a cheap rate has other rewards.
     
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  3. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    I have found with CH it all depends on what office you talk with and go direct off of the CHRW load board and not call central dispatch.

    It has also been known the lighter no touch loads pay better than the heavy as well, but it all depends on the lane, as of now I am working on a triangular matrix.
     
  4. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    It really buggers em up when they call you and think, "oh, he's taken it that cheap before."...

    You nail them with the, "hey, you and I had a gentleman's agreement as business people, I'd help you, you'd come back with better paying stuff."

    I have had some that I can read that on the first load you talk with them and what they want you to do. I don't do their crap.

    I have had some that will come back on the next load and say "hey, I'm in another bind, I remember our last load, I can cover a bit more this time. Can you help me out?" I've even bounced for this guy further than I normally will too.

    You aren't a truck driver hauling freight.

    You are a business man providing a product relocation service. Different mindsets entirely. And some brokers don't know how to deal with that.
     
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  5. Autocar

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    Gone are the days of regulated rates and difficulty getting authority. People wanted this model and now y'all get to deal with it, for good or bad.
     
  6. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    Rates were better in 1979 than now if you factored in economy and all the other financials.
     
  7. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Not just in trucking.

    Economics in general are against the middle class.

     
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    Yes, they were. But you could forget about being an independent. New applications for operating authority were being denied. The only companies in trucking were the ones that were already established. Can you imagine what the industry would be like if we could only choose between JB Hunt, Swift, Prime, Knight or Schneider when looking for a driving job?
     
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  9. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    My family owns still today the largest trucking company in my home state, they were running O/O and a few company trucks.

    The rules and regulations today, in my opinion only is to force out every last O/O by regulations.
     
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    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Back then, the majoriy of Independents and Private Carriers ran exempt commodities. When they did do regulated commodites, it was normally done through a trip lease with a regulated carrier.
    This is why Owner/Operators leased to companies like Mercer, Ranger, Inway and many others.
     
  11. saddleup

    saddleup Light Load Member

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    Your all missing the main point and yes brokers controll the rates and 99.9% of the time you will never know what the original rate is. I for 1 will not haul anything for a $1.00 a mile, why think of this. I will get better fuel mileage empty going back to good rates, 2 you load that cheap heavy crap and there is a problem on the way or on the other end and a claim is filed against your insurance, bam $1000.00 for deductable now was it still worth. Brokers are ripping the rates apart, i called about a load of farm tractors yestuday picking up in Ga 720 miles broker offered 1120 and when i told her i knew they paid alot more than that, she asked what i needed. i hung up the phone not worth my time, we refuse to deal with shady brokers.
     
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