What is the "value" for you the owner?
At one time, I can and could and likely would justify buying a "donor truck."
This is one that an O/O is likely to have taken care of, a spouse/family is disposing of an estate etc. Pick a scenario on HOW you could find that truck.
However, Body and interior need minimal investment, but still an investment.
Needs an engine, it's tired, the entire driveline is tired.
What's it gonna cost? $5,000 to paint, $20,000 rebuild the engine, $5,000 tranny, $7000 rear ends, $2500 brakes I mean you have $40,000+ tied up into it JUST to get it road worthy.
That's all EXPENSE items too. The only one who will have any value in that is you. Right?
But, you still have a BRAND NEW TRUCK in service life. (not to mention a piece of class to roll in and turn some heads on the road) Call that PRIDE.
Now compare that and the interest expense, depreciation etcetera of a brand new $140,000 truck. Amortize that out over the 48 to 60 month life of financing that piece of equipment.
Interest ALONE would now have PAID for all of those repairs.
Now amortize those payments on the principle of $140,000 to YOU in savings/investments and where does that put YOU the truck owner.
How owner operators can be profitable
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Caveat to all this. This is ALL MY personal business model. There are many like it, but this one is mine. While this may work for me, others may not find it useful. But this one is mine. It is not the industry standard, but it fits my needs. But be aware, there is 2 1/2 years of accounting and 2 years of management training and 10+ years of business experience that goes into building these.
A spreadsheet that I use to track and follow my monthly, weekly, quarterly and annual expenses. Helps me gage the effectiveness of my decisions.
It's not the ENTIRE spreadsheet, but it's a start and gives you a working idea of the level of detail and stuff that a typical O/O has to plan/budget for.
There's also an acid (operating) ratio off to the side that shows me how much I am spending to earn a buck. Currently right now, it's about .68. So I spend about 68 cents to earn $1. The lower the number, the better you are managing your expenses. This number also includes my personal wages(draw) It's figured by Total Expenses / Total Revenue.
Now how does this ALL wrap up?
You need a lot more information than just this income statement.
How many days are you gonna work this month? We all like our home time. I don't want to be gone 30-31 days a month. All work and no play makes Johnny a dull boy ya know. I plan for 19 days out. This isn't just a random number either. It's a historical number that I have l seen for the number of days I typically work for a month driving the truck. Both as a company and O/O driver. Look at your per diem days for the last couple years. How many days out are you averaging a month. And it doesn't mean you are out 19 days straight either.
You have to know your maintenance numbers. The longer you are in business, the more accurate this number becomes. I put together some of the more common expenses that a truck has and listed them on my Income statement. Based on normal life cycles, that came up with my maintenance expense of about 12 CPM. Realistically, this money ALL goes into an escrow account separate from everything and ONLY pays for things that break or planned maintenance on the truck. (yeah right, welcome to the real world.)
Then you'll also need your fuel expense. What's that costing you a miles. cost per gal/MPG. We'll use 0.60 CPM. $3.90 per gallon / 6.5 mpg.
Next, I look at how many AVERAGE miles I drive a day. This is not a "random" number either. It's systematically recording all of my loads and averaging them out over a LONG period of time. some days it's 75, others it's 750. In my case right now, I am using 500 miles a day. Historically, this includes the time to load, unload, fuel, etc all into that number.
So how does this ALL come together?
First thing you need to look at....
What do I need to earn in revenue EACH day I am working JUST to cover my Fixed overheads.
That would be $5410 / 19. The $5410 is rounded up from the Income statement showing my monthly OH. The 19 days is from my per diem sheets. Gives you about $285 per day needed just to cover fixed OH.
Variable costs. That's the 12 CPM for maintenance and the 60 CPM for fuel. Or 72 CPM.
So how does that work?
You need $285+ (miles * .72) to just break even. Still not so simple.
You need to figure out how many days you'll be on that load. Remember that 500 miles per day average? This is where it comes into play.
(running miles/500)* $285 + (running miles * 0.72) = Break even revenue.
Scenario 1:
You book a load, it's got a 30 mile deadhead and a 470 mile run. It's going to take you a day to do this load. 30+470 = 500 / 500 = 1.
So you now need $285 minimum just to cover the overhead for this load.
You also are going to need 500*0.72 = $360 just to cover fuel and maintenance from moving your truck.
So at a MINIMUM you should need $645 just to consider this load to break even.
Scenario 2:
You book a load, it's got a 130 mile deadhead and a 1470 mile run. It's going to take you a day to do this load. 130+1470 = 1600 / 500 = 3.2 days
So you now need $285*3.2 = $912 minimum just to cover the overhead for this load.
You also are going to need 1600*0.72 = $1152 just to cover fuel and maintenance from moving your truck.
So at a MINIMUM you should need $2064 just to consider this load to break even.
Short loads:
Different beast entirely. While you still have to consider your minimum mileage, it becomes more of a realistically looking at how much time you will be under a load. While a 50 mile load would figure to only 0.1 day or $28, you KNOW that will sink you as it's really going to take you about 1/2 day to complete, so you might say, $150 + $40 for fuel and need $190. Short stuff REALLY becomes a "how well do you know your market" situation. So you might really bid this at say, $350 and get it.
But you don't WANT to just break even. You want a profit? How much of a profit? 30%? 50%? I go for as much as I can get.
But I KNOW the bottom number on where I can go to and STILL cover my expenses. Including my own pay draw.Last edited: Aug 14, 2013
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But I KNOW the bottom number on where I can go to and STILL cover my expenses. Including my own pay draw.
Most that FAIL as an O/O have no clue of their BOTTOM NUMBER, same as the BSers who brag on running empty from California to PA because they can have no clue on their true costs per mile. * ( This is not about DEDICATED , SPECIALIZED Equipment, PAID to do it but running home for $0.00 / mile ) *Last edited: Aug 14, 2013
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Mn, I respect a man that is outspoken and I appreciate that but itsimportant as well to look at what improvement new perspective can positivelycontribute to your business as I assume your outspokenness is really driven togrow your business.
My 'Little breakdown is applicable to anyone and does work all the timeas its principled in approach the only thing comes down to the truck owner andwhat vision they have for their business. Sharing your spreadsheet isgraciously appreciated as it show that you value your business and you alsosharing abit of yourself for the wellbeing of others and the industry.
This thread with everyone experience supposed to help other owner tohave longevity in the industry. With that said I would like to further illustrateor emphasize what been said to date incorporating the costing model,spreadsheet, preventative maintenance and life cycle of equipment with Landstarimportant fundamental statement.
If youre a know it all transporter you will keep on making cancerousmistakes but if you an dedicated achiever you will learn and acknowledge toensure longevity!
Again it all start with how much it will cost you to operate a truck andthis is open for discussion:
Lets say Joe want to open his own trucking company he reads up onliterature and also speaks to established truckers this is what he comes upwith the costing model below and note this approach is more cost control thanlooking at the market.
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[TD="width: 311, bgcolor: transparent, colspan: 2"][/TD]Truck Costs
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[TD="width: 189"] Total Fixed Cost Per Day
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[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$317.97
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[TR]
[TD="width: 189"] Variable Cost: Cents Per Mile
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[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$0.63
[/TR]
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[TD="width: 189"] Total Operating cost per day
[/TD]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$938.33
[/TR]
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[TD="width: 189"] Total Operating Cost $/Yr
[/TD]
[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$298388.87
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[TD="width: 189"] Total Operating Cost $/M
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[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$1.67
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[TD="width: 189"] Fixed Monthly cost
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[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$8426.28
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[TD="width: 189"] Variable Monthly cost
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[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$16439.46
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[TD="width: 189"] Total Monthly Costs
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[TD="width: 122"][/TD]$24865.74
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This costing model above is based on new flatbed combination and hasfactored in lease payments etc.
Joe knows that a rate of $1.67 per mile is his total operating cost permile, he knows anything above that he will be profit before tax. He alsodecides a 10% profit margin would be a fair rate and a 15% profit margin wouldbe his ideal rate that he will be chasing. Immediately Joe has illuminated thepossibilities of failures in his business as he can now negotiate rates between$1.84 per mile as fair and $1.9 to $2 per mile as his ideal rate.
In terms of maintenance Joe can decide run 24 days in the month coverhis fixed cost and set aside 4-6days for maintenance. Joe can also decidewhether that he can alternatively look at achieving a 10% profit margin andtries to attain or breakeven on the 19[SUP]th[/SUP] of the month to make hismoney until the 24[SUP]th[/SUP] day. Joe also knows that all his loads shouldexceed average of $950 dollar day to drive for profitability. In the costingmodel he is paying himself a salary of 30 000 per annum so he also knowthe amount of loads to be done to ensure his cost are paid for, ensure truck isprofitable and make sure he can meet his obligations.
Joe also sits down to plan how he is going to meet his obligation and maintenanceas he know downtime is number one enemy of an trucking concern. He consultsanother well established trucking company that a firm believer in preventative maintenanceas that not only limit breakdown of trucks but also reducing cost in the longrun and boost profitability.
Joe now discovers that if he bases his maintenance on preventativemaintenance he can shorten maintenance days per month from 6 to 2 days permonth giving him extra 4 days of running his truck and thereby increasing profitability.But he decides that he does want to see his family that could mean he could bea whole 4-6days at home to play with his kids while his business is profitableand truck being maintained.
Joe now realizes that planning is an integral part of his businessbefore he goes on the road, he has targets that he keeps on revising every day.He also focuses on a particular lane and will either speak to customer director makes use of brokers and load boards in both directions. That way he can limittime to go load again. Joe also now thinks how can he implement a preventative maintenanceprogram and with what intervals?
The Preventative Maintenance program-credit to Ridgeline that is alsoincludes tires and lubrication
After spoke to transport companies and key staff members he implementsthis plan:
M1 Service-18500 Miles light service oil changes and diagnostics withany
M2 Service-37500 Miles M1+ checking potential component failures
M3-56000 Miles Major Service, Component replacement and fitting brand newtires.
Joe knows that all M1 service account for 25% of the monthly maintenance costestimate and M2 service ussually accounts for 50-75% of monthly maintenancecost estimates and M3 100% above of monthly maintenance cost. TheMaintenance estimate from the costing model also factored unforeseencircumstances of $10 000 per annum.
Joe now amortizes the total maintenance cost in an escrow account as heknow $0.25c per mile is maintenance cost and will put that money into theaccount irrespective.
That means out of total variable cost of $16439 about 40% is maintenanceand tire cost includes budget for unforeseen circumstances that he will putaway every month and schedule his truck for maintenance according to the maintenanceprogram he planned. He put away $6575.60 every month into escrow to ensure histruck is always at its optimum and that will enable him to spend time with hiskids as well while his truck is away to be fixed.
One area Joe is also aware is laws that keep on changing with emphasizesbeing on emission control for the environment.-credit goes to Stexan.
Joe sits down does his number and decides that at the margin he isaiming at and his maintenance program in place he anticipates that he can fullypay off his truck in 3-4years at margin of 10-15% and decides that he will planon replacing his truck in the sixth year so that he can also save up for enoughmoney this time to make an down payment of up to 50% if things go according toplan otherwise he can make an affordable down payment to ensure his business isoperating. He sees by doing so that he will be able to play inside the safetymargin of the law makers while still building an profitable business beingcompliant to legislation.
Joe after doing his
· costing model,
· focusing on certain lanes,
· speaking to customer or brokers and looking at load boards to get loadsinto both directions
· Preventative Maintenance program
· Equipment life cycle replacement program from law perspective
Purchases his flatbed combination with his game plan in hand to be successfuland ensuring that he can be with his family as well.
In case of a second truck the only adjustment 10-15% increase in maintenancecost and fuel consumption increase of about 12.3% and the preventative maintenanceinterval will have to be shorter as well for higher rate of expected componentfailure. If you have more than 3 major break down with that truck in one yearget rid of it and it cost dont fall into the adjustments mentioned get rid ofit as well.
These are guidelines from hard data observed from big fleet owners andfigures they use to judge trucks performance. I hope this does bring some lighton how to effectively in a structured way and have some sort of control overcost.
Im ending this story with Landstar words: The biggest part that is always forgotten andoverlooked...Pure Determination, Sacrifice, Common Sense and Extreme HardWork..Many fail at this in the ''field'', after they close their laptops andput there ''blue print'' down.
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Craggy you are spot on if a truck is paid for even empty than your making money! there is a difference when running on an dedicated contract unlike loading from loadboards or taking loads that are available in that area you are offloading. Im sure you can better control and have put measure in place to decrease cost on that particular route?
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Business,
I appreciate what you are trying to say. My humor is somewhat dry and you do not see that. I happen to like war movies and it's a slim attempt at mimicking one of them.
The last part of this is to simply say, "I didn't slap this together out of thin air".
There is a major component schedule involved that breaks down not only the expected cost, but also the life expectancy to that component. Allowing you to "amortize" your maintenance.
If you take a close (or even look at the spreadsheet.) It lists ALL of the expenses that make up your Fixed overhead as well as the variable expense and breaks them down and adds them up for you.
In reality, it's a standard business management form that an accountant would put together for your mid to upper management. More so your middle management to make informed decisions.
Sorry, you are not the only person here with your knowledge and experience. You are saying, you have to know this stuff.
I am showing them just one example of how you can see it. Hence the "this is mine" statement. How you compile it is up to you, this is only one example and version. But it's also more standard and common to business and based on taught as well as practical business modelling.
In other words, I did not re-invent the wheel here. I just created a spreadsheet that made sense to me and if you care to use it, feel free to.Last edited by a moderator: May 9, 2015
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Mn, that not a problem as the purpose of the forum is not to shine but to help O-O show how they can be profitable. I acknowledge what you trying to saying and again this is not about me or you or our ego but to help truckers and start an conversation to better good of the industry.
I'd like to bring accross a point that accountants only consolidate historic data and not realtime costs like the costing model I posted but again your spreadsheet is immensely helpful to give truckers an idea of financial year ends for submissions. I feel that your trucker that well informed and can contribute to other guys success and that makes me feel comfortable and relaxed. As our objective is to help and share insights for the greater good of the industry and not our ego's. I'm sure you would agree with me isnt that so? -
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I see you saying, "this is your fixed OH cost." But not sharing how you get that number. For an O/O, that number creation is as critical as anything else.
I also know talking to so many about costs, it's more common for an O/O to really state it in terms of cost per mile even for a fixed cost such as an equipment lease or building rent. It's a different point of view for an O/O vs a business background.
If you look at both of my examples, it breaks down to $1.29 per mile. So a typical O/O is going to say I need at least $1.29 per mile to haul a load.
Sure is a lot easier to state it that way than the big ol' formula I laid out above. Miles * $1.29. easy peasy. Just remember though, price changes in anything changes that number. Fuel and Maintenance are the big and direct hitters to this. All the rest gets spread out over a much larger mileage base.
As to real time vs historical....
I have always looked to history and said, "What's it's cost me in the past and/or how much have I used?" I got a "base" to start with. OK, I have historically used about 800 gallons of fuel a month. (or whatever your actual usage is) If you adjust it for expected priced, you can realistically plan your expenses next month. But you can't just come up with what amount unless you know historically what you've done in the past. It's really two parts: What do I normally use? and what's the current pump price? Real time pricing. Nothing fancy about that. If the pumps are going down, that's great like we are seeing now. We can easily live with that. I am likely to just leave my fuel budget forecasting for the month alone. If price is headed up, NOW it becomes critical to stay on top of that figure. You can find yourself in area 51 with no fuel money left.
Gotta run.....
Load came in and I am going home.
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