Why is it so hard to make money as a independent?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by jonjon_jon, Aug 31, 2014.

  1. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Just because you can make a sandwich do you think you are qualified to own a Subway? Of course not. But with trucking many think because they can drive they can be an O/O.

    What is amusing about the OP is that we are in a time where you can fall out of a truck and get a good rate you are asking this question.

    It is not that hard to make money in this business IF YOU TREAT IT LIKE A BUSINESS. Actually, it should be easier than being a company driver considering if you do it right you can make a lot more and drive a lot less.
     
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  3. Pandemic

    Pandemic Bobtail Member

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    How much more money does a successful owner/operator make, as opposed to a company driver? I know it can vary widely, just curious.
     
  4. 281ric

    281ric Road Train Member

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    * not knowing how to negotiate
    * not knowing , studying , learning lanes
    * stubborness - doing it wrong over and over and over and over.
    * pride - not seeking or asking for help and accepting your way isnt working
    * MONEY MANAGEMENT
    * MONEY MANAGEMENT
    * MONEY MANAGEMENT
     
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  5. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Very, very true.

    Equally true.

    Selecting a lane with freight out and back convenient to trucker.
     
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  6. Skinny P

    Skinny P Light Load Member

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    and

    I will also add that not knowing how to optimize

    1) Fuel
    2) Rate Per Mile
    3) Lanes

    I learned fast that I could make more money running a 300 mile load for $700, than from running a 1000 mile load for $1500. Most see $1500 and run to that I see 2 days driving 500 miles vs 2 days driving 300 miles each for the same total amount. Also, guys think that you should just fill the tank cause that means less fuel stops, I see that as hauling your money around vs letting it stay in your pocket. Lastly, most don't save enough to cover downtime ( I lost 15 days due to snow, load time delays, and shippers who don't know their receivers.
     
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  7. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    I do business with the philosophy that its not how much you make,.. its how much you get to keep.

    Hurst
     
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  8. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Dunno. Icky Donald Trump and Mike Gerdin (Heartland Express/GTI) probably save more than I do. The one (how much you make) acts as a lid on the other (how much you can keep)...
     
  9. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    I'm not so sure I accept the premise that it's so hard to make money as an independent. Who'd you hear that from ?
     
  10. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    In some ways it is easier to make it as an independent today than a few decades ago.
     
  11. moraramis

    moraramis Light Load Member

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    Lot Lizards are independent contractors, well most are unless they are a company lizard with their Fleet Manager sitting in a car keeping an eye on them. Go ask them about their business plan. From the looks of some of them they don't hold back money for maintenance.
     
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