good business plan?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by elf.trucking, Dec 22, 2014.

  1. elf.trucking

    elf.trucking Bobtail Member

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    I came across this site today, first time poster. I was looking for some opinions on some business ideas.History about myself- drove otr and local for 4 years with a perfect service record then joined the army as a truck driver. I have over 600k miles and also did 6 months as a lease operator until they broke contract. My army contract is up in 2016 and have in my opinion a good set of business plans. They are complete down to a 10 year plan for the business. I plan on trying to get a va small business loan for $72,000 which would cover all start up costs and running and living costs for 3 months. What sets my business apart from the rest is that I plan on renting trucks on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. That way if theres no loads or one of my drivers wants to take a week of home time theres no truck payments hanging over my head. I plan on running locally while I hire drivers to run otr. Id start off with buying 3 trailers and renting a daycab for me and a sleeper for my hired otr driver.why rent? Because you can run up to date new equipment vs buying something old thats gunna have issues, you virtually have no truck maintenance and repair costs, and no pending truck payment. Its also cheaper than a truck payment on a month to month basis. Obviously you dont get to keep or customize the trucks tho as if you were buying them, but the saved money would go towards paying off the loan, expanding company, and saving to buy a new truck outright. My cpm currently averages $2.00/mile. Thats with a great driver salary, all overhead, paid medical benefits, and company profit. I plan on doing all the book work and load booking and hiring atbs for my taxes. We plan on getting loads off of online load boards and establishing a good broker base. Please give me your opinion on whether or not you think this would be a good plan. Thank you in advance!
     
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  3. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Have you checked into rental rates ?
     
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  4. elf.trucking

    elf.trucking Bobtail Member

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    Yes, $3,698/mo daycab averaging 9,000 miles month and $4,220/month for a sleeper averaging 10,000 miles. No truck maintenance, repair, or tire fund needed. Would this be worth it? My credit currently isnt the greatest and I fear that id only be able to buy non road worthy trucks.
     
  5. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    It's a HEADACHE renting trucks on a when needed basis as an established operation so good luck as a start up, and with CPM of $2.00 / mile the least you should be willing to pull freight for would be $2.53 / Mile and that's only when really needed at that price
     
  6. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    I can see several flaws in your plan; the first would be already starting out chasing the nickel with a 72k loan payment. The second;really need to check into is insurance rates. As a new venture you are probably looking at about $13,000 per year and that's for one truck (your own). I have no idea how it would be with the plan you have. It's not wrong to think outside the box like your doing but ask yourself this, if this was really plausible then why are there not more operations run this way. Contrary to popular belief, there is little money to be made in trucking after everything is paid and even more so running freight at $2.00 per mile.
     
  7. elf.trucking

    elf.trucking Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the heads up on the headache. My question would be why wouldnt I be able to haul freight for less than $2.53 mile if my cpm is $2? The way I figured my cpm had fixed rates including loan health insurance, accounting, all insurances licenses, phone fax internet and rental; and variable costs to include fuel def reefer trailer maintenance and tire fund washouts scales all taxes and company profit; and also includes driver salary. Fixed= .471/cpm, variable=.897, driver pay (high end) .625 = $1.993 total cost per mile based on 8,000 miles average a month (bad month) per truck. What are current average freight rates these days? I recently saw dedicated contracts for own authority for $3.00/mile with back haul. This $1 extra a mile would all go towards profit?
     
  8. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    By this math your truck payment alone will cost you 0.47 cpm (10,000 miles per month) for the sleeper and 0.41 cpm (9,000 miles per month) for the day cab. Let's take fuel costs for the sleeper at an average of 6.5mpg 10,000 per month = 1538 gallons x $3.40 per gallon = $5,229.20 monthly fuel costs = 0.52cpm.................So now with just truck payment and fuel your costs are at 0.99cpm.. You havent factored in driver costs, insurance and lots more. $2.00 per mile is nothing.
     
  9. elf.trucking

    elf.trucking Bobtail Member

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    Good call! Thank you! I dont know how I did it but I got all my rental rates mixed up... and thats exactly why I posted on here because it sounded to good to be true... new numbers to come soon. Out of curiosity what is an average cpm and what is a good cpm to strive for? Obviously every business is different and unique in its own way.
     
  10. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    It's impossible to say.. Every business is different and to get numbers from another plan will be inaccurate for your operation. One more thing you need to factor in is start-up costs. There's an endless amount of federal and state permits to file for. How much do you value your time? You can spend weeks doing this stuff dealing with bureaucracies. Another problem with renting or leasing a truck is you have very little control over fuel costs since you cannot change the truck set-up or spec the truck out in the first place. Statistics are not in your favor. Something like 80% of O/O's or trucking operations are out of business in the first year. At least you are seriously looking at the numbers before doing it. That's unlike most goobers who just jump right in and think "all I have to do is drive." These first year failures keep freight rates low for everyone because yes, you can run freight for 0.80cpm and maybe stay in business for the next 4 months. Then the next guy comes along and does the same thing. See what I mean?
     
  11. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    why wouldnt I be able to haul freight for less than $2.53 mile if my cpm is $2? :biggrin_25524: IT'S CALLED MINIMUM PROFIT and that's what keeps the wheels turning , you can haul all you want for a loss if you want that's your business , was just offering some advice .
     
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