Seeking Guidance As A New O/O With A Lease . .

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by OONewbie, Jan 29, 2015.

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  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    FIXED. thank you.
     
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  3. OONewbie

    OONewbie Light Load Member

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    Ok to get off the truck topic, I was hoping for some more insight on what to do to plan properly for when I go to orientation and grab my trailer and go for my 1st load. what are things I need to know, how to manage the load board, how to calculate a true fixed/variable cost budget for the truck.. I'm passed the dilemma of new or used, with the minimal mechanical skills I have and the lack of a nest egg to soak into a repair account, I'm leaning much more towards new with a warranty.... I know it's crazy to start out with a payment over my head, but just like any other business it takes money to make money right?
     
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  4. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    If you go all in and buy a new truck, the first thing you're going to want to do is save every dime you make for the near future. You won't have to pay for repairs, but you still have maintenance, and down time for covered repairs. On the new trucks building to $20k would be my first priority, and then slowly building to 30-40k over the next few years, so by the time that warranty is out in the 4th year, you can cover a repair or trade in and be in a good situation. This will allow you to make those truck payments should you injure yourself which is always a possibility out here.

    You should also have private savings as well and enroll in a tax deferred IRA. This will lower your tax responsibility and allow you to save for retirement as well. A financial advisor that knows trucking might be the way to go. You have until next year to fund the account so build your break down fund first.

    BCO biz manager is Fogline's software just for Landstar BCO's. They give a free 30 day trial, so set it up while your at orientation and try it out. I think it's great and it will tell you your profit per load, which can easily show you what is profitable and what's not.

    As far as the load board, the best loads never hit it, at all. Networking with agents is the key to riches here. 70% of my freight never hits the board. I get a phone call or text to see if I am available. The rest of my freight comes from the board, but typically is booked through a load alert. For a new BCO, load alerts are going to be your most valuable tool. I prefer the email version because I set broad parameters to try and find awesome paying loads. Setting parameters such as 2.20 a mile will mean you miss out on that $2 single pallet LTL. If a load is good, it will be gone in minutes. If a load is fantastic, it will be gone to the first caller. The stuff you see on the load board that's old is typically the stuff no one wants. You need to change your way of thinking as well. The typical company driver or LP wants miles, miles, miles. All you want is revenue for the least amount of miles. If you grab a weekend load paying $2000, do you grab the one going 400 miles or the one going 800 miles? In most cases the 400 mile one is better though you'll be sitting more. Sometimes the 800 mile one is better though because it puts you an area with awesome freight and the 400 mile one put you in a dead area. The best thing I can tell you is study the load board for different areas you might want to run, make note of the agents that have good freight posting, etc.
    Good luck.
     
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  5. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    Landstar operation is out of my wattage reach. Your best bet is becoming friends with any and all, good and bad and learn the short and the long wanna-run drivers from there.
    Learn in events of breakdown procedures, learn money dealings with your settlements "before" leaving the yard.

    Get to your bottom line and for whatever happens try hard never to load below that soothing point.
    My break even including home expenses is $1.71 a mile.
    my loads are hardly ever below $1.90.

    If you need help getting to that number just add up every single bill, get an annual lumpsum, of them all and divide by the industry's avg mileage run of 120000.
    I've come to realize through time most of us only work 40 weeks out of 52, but we all work in different ways.
    in example, 120000/40 weeks you have to run no less than 3000 miles a week. Capece?
    I run way less than those miles epicted in that description but my income is higher than that set on there also.
    then my truck gives me 1 mpg more than my avg for the 1.71, meaning I am keeping afloat comfortably.

    Good luck driver.
     
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  6. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    If you are going with LS I would find some of the groups that report the bad brokers. Even some of the biggest kool-aid drinkers are starting to publicly complain about this.

    And if you can find a mentor BCO that would be just as important. Even great companies have issues. The quicker you can learn how to work the system and avoid the pit falls the better. Couple good LS threads on TTR. I am sure you can get some people there to help you out.
     
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  7. OONewbie

    OONewbie Light Load Member

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    Great insight, thank you! I appreciate it , finally getting some solid guidance here and down to the nitty gritty. I am probably 5-6 weeks from signing on the dotted line for the lease and heading to orientation, so my goal is to soak up as much knowledge as I can before I head out to Reno...
     
  8. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    Good luck and remember, your business starts with your numbers keep up. And most but not least "have a goal".
     
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  9. OONewbie

    OONewbie Light Load Member

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    Well Just a quick update for anyone that may still be following my thread.

    I am going in for hernia repair surgery next week with a mandatory 6 weeks for a full recovery before my doctor will clear me to go back on the truck. From there it's game on!!!! So that gives me roughly 7 more weeks to finalize my business plan, learn as much as possible and take in all I can. Oh and the POLL is no longer relevant, I am going with a new truck a 2016 with LoneMountain Leasing... "IF" for some reason the deal falls through, I have a back up approval for Quality Leasing which is a whole different structure from what I'm gathering so far. The only thing that stuck in my head from the hour I was on the phone with the salesman from quality was the option to walk away and $1 buyout , but with so many more stipulations then LoneMountain.


    I have been approved to sign on w/ Landstar & Mercer.I am in a bit of a quagmire as to which company to go with .

    On one hand I hear and read and have been told that @ Mercer you have a name and are treated better overall and haven't heard many bad things... Though to really be successful you have to do flatbed and tarp on a daily basis. Though I am not afraid of the labor and I hear you get paid rather well for it as well. I am not sure how long my back can hold up to the demand of the tarp & strapping routine... Not to mention just getting over my hernia surgery "Does anyone do dry van for Mercer"?

    I hear you more of a # at Landstar though after you learn the ropes you are just as likely to succeed just as much as the next guy and that they do more high dollar specialized freight in dry vans as well...

    I am on the fence ,though I was convinced until tonight to go with Mercer"until I read up on here that they are a 95% dedicated flatbed company", I am not sure if running a dry van or reefer w/ Mercer is a recipe for success .?...

    I am not going to limit my restrictions as to what I am willing to do, I will stay out of Cali & NYC but everywhere else is fair game including Canada...
    Before I sign on with either company , I will be getting my TWIC, Enhanced CDL , Hazmat & possibly doubles & triples just to have it..

    Just a update as to where I stand, any feedback is appreciated....
     
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  10. Blu_Ogre

    Blu_Ogre Road Train Member

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    Quality leasing: make sure you are not limited on where you can take the truck. In the past you had to get truck moves to a different company approved by them.

    Mercer has been growing their van side per a driver I chatted with last month. They are worth a close look.
     
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  11. kw550cat

    kw550cat Medium Load Member

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    I think you can sign a conestoga on with them which will mean no tarpping, but also no oversize loads. Check out the Mercer threads for any questions you have. They have been answered, and they have 700 page thread too.
     
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