Buying A Truck....

walleye · Jan 24, 2009

B&T Rogers said: ↑

That is what I am saying here... Everyone wants cheap gas , fuel , cars products consumer goods etc... How can a shipper pay you more when they have so much revenue tied up in producing a product , any product... PERIOD. There is a happy medium where the economy is half arsed balanced , we however have not seen that in a while. That's the reason you choose to sit and not run . It's your choice to give up . If everyone gave up we would be no better off my friend . It just adds to the depression or so called recession... Positive attitude will help , negative just snow balls and rolls down hill. So stay strong and ride the wave so to speak. It will get better over time. Well we hope anyways , You just have to have some faith that's all . You could die at an early age if you let the day to day market drive you insane . But hey , I understand some want more , not need more to get by. I know what it takes to stay afloat in the trucking business . And I know the difference between needs and wants.......Your bottom line could be a lot more than mine or the next guys. If we were all the same and had to play by the same rules there would be no competition at all in the trucking industry at all . And how boring would that be ??? Wow this got way off subject from the posted topic ..... People would rather bi#% about the other guy doing things the way that works for them, other than their way which obviously don't work if your sitting now does it....
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Mr,....Stay positive all you want,....I hope I am wrong,....But I think your setting yourself up for disaster,...

walleye · Jan 24, 2009

I should ad,...The only reason I focus on the bad side of this industry is because I hat to see anyone lose everything like I did,...I figure someone has to play devils advocate because this industry isn't all sunshine and roses,...

1pissedoffdriver · Jan 24, 2009

b&t rogers said: ↑

that is what i am saying here... Everyone wants cheap gas , fuel , cars products consumer goods etc... How can a shipper pay you more when they have so much revenue tied up in producing a product , any product... Period. There is a happy medium where the economy is half arsed balanced , we however have not seen that in a while. That's the reason you choose to sit and not run . It's your choice to give up . If everyone gave up we would be no better off my friend . It just adds to the depression or so called recession... Positive attitude will help , negative just snow balls and rolls down hill. So stay strong and ride the wave so to speak. It will get better over time. Well we hope anyways , you just have to have some faith that's all . You could die at an early age if you let the day to day market drive you insane . But hey , i understand some want more , not need more to get by. I know what it takes to stay afloat in the trucking business . And i know the difference between needs and wants.......your bottom line could be a lot more than mine or the next guys. If we were all the same and had to play by the same rules there would be no competition at all in the trucking industry at all . And how boring would that be ??? Wow this got way off subject from the posted topic ..... People would rather bi#% about the other guy doing things the way that works for them, other than their way which obviously don't work if your sitting now does it....
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i love staying home with my family and loved ones and i love the fact that i am not out there working for a profit of .20 cents...a mile...

And i disagree.if you darn drivers would stop being do desperate AND NEEDY to make .20 cent profit it would not be this way.so yes shut em down cause all your doing is driving the rate down to nothing and spinning your wheels for .20 cent profit...rolmfao

HELLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANYONE HOME

B&T Rogers · Jan 24, 2009

ric1jud said: ↑

The fact that you have insurance does not negate the fact you have to put it into your business plan. 1pissedoffdriver's numbers are right, drivers that budget "around" things like insurance, telephone expense, internet or any other possible expense you can think of is foolish. We need to be as good business people as we are drivers. Anything less than that is irresponsible.
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How is not including medical insurance in my business plan irresponsible?? I have the benefit to not have to figure this in to my bottom line , and you don't... Thus being I can run for less than you and still get by. What are you saying you want a trucking monopoly ... Straight across the board. ?? If and when I need to figure in health insurance , then my bottom line will reflect that . So lets all p@# and M@#n about the guy who can adjust his cost of operation by a very slim margin.. That's a bunch of crap. And I guess I would expect that from those that don't have that ability, or option open to them. This is a Business first , a job second . And you save money where and when you can. Well I do . Don't You? I never once said I was making money hand over fist , without expense. But my expenses are just a little different than yours that's all. Wow what the heck is in the air nowadays???

1pissedoffdriver · Jan 24, 2009

walleye said: ↑

i should ad,...the only reason i focus on the bad side of this industry is because i hat to see anyone lose everything like i did,...i figure someone has to play devils advocate because this industry isn't all sunshine and roses,...
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he aint making money at 1.40 a mile ....he kidding himself....peanuts

1pissedoffdriver · Jan 24, 2009

b&t rogers said: ↑

how is not including medical insurance in my business plan irresponsible?? I have the benefit to not have to figure this in to my bottom line , and you don't... Thus being i can run for less than you and still get by. What are you saying you want a trucking monopoly ... Straight across the board. ?? If and when i need to figure in health insurance , then my bottom line will reflect that . So lets all p@# and m@#n about the guy who can adjust his cost of operation by a very slim margin.. That's a bunch of crap. And i guess i would expect that from those that don't have that ability, or option open to them. This is a business first , a job second . And you save money where and when you can. Well i do . Don't you? I never once said i was making money hand over fist , without expense. But my expenses are just a little different than yours that's all. Wow what the heck is in the air nowadays???
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what you dont understatnd is 90% of all o/o's expences are the same give in take 10%...it is what it is..and at a 1.40 a mile,and all deadhead and all expences you will be lucky to make 10 cents a mile profit..

B&T Rogers · Jan 24, 2009

If I ran for $1.40 all the time... No I would not be now would I ... go figure....Did you even read what was wrote ???? Or just pick and choose what you want to read? Holy crap you guys are wound tight... I have to put up with the same as you do , Big companies cheap freight so you call it. I just deal with the stress a little different is all. Run a little different what ever you want to call it ... Oh that's right I'm the dirt bag that's driving freight prices down....LOL You will never see every truck or even 75% of them shut down from freight prices . If they do , the next entrepreneur jumps in and runs like hell , And bang has a small fleet doing decent for itself. That's why swift and all the big companies are doing OK.... WELL , because you choose not to run. And let them do it instead. Are they making money ??? You bet they are ........And you wont if you give up.

ric1jud · Jan 24, 2009

B&T Rogers said: ↑

How is not including medical insurance in my business plan irresponsible?? I have the benefit to not have to figure this in to my bottom line , and you don't... Thus being I can run for less than you and still get by. What are you saying you want a trucking monopoly ... Straight across the board. ?? If and when I need to figure in health insurance , then my bottom line will reflect that . So lets all p@# and M@#n about the guy who can adjust his cost of operation by a very slim margin.. That's a bunch of crap. And I guess I would expect that from those that don't have that ability, or option open to them. This is a Business first , a job second . And you save money where and when you can. Well I do . Don't You? I never once said I was making money hand over fist , without expense. But my expenses are just a little different than yours that's all. Wow what the heck is in the air nowadays???
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It's irresponsible because if you don't you are only planning for today, not tomorrow. You have to plan for medical insurance, your wife could get laid off tomorrow, you have to plan for a truck payment, the one you're driving will not last forever. If you care at all for your family you have to plan for the future. If you are not planning for all of these things you are also irresponsible to your fellow o/o's for allowing shippers to get away with shipping cheap freight. One might as well lease to JB.

1pissedoffdriver · Jan 24, 2009

b&t rogers said: ↑

if i ran for $1.40 all the time... No i would not be now would i ... Go figure....did you even read what was wrote ???? Or just pick and choose what you want to read? Holy crap you guys are wound tight... I have to put up with the same as you do , big companies cheap freight so you call it. I just deal with the stress a little different is all. Run a little different what ever you want to call it ... Oh that's right i'm the dirt bag that's driving freight prices down....lol you will never see every truck or even 75% of them shut down from freight prices . If they do , the next entrepreneur jumps in and runs like hell , and bang has a small fleet doing decent for itself. That's why swift and all the big companies are doing ok.... Well , because you choose not to run. And let them do it instead. Are they making money ??? You bet they are ........and you wont if you give up.
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and thats why jevic went bankrupt too....interesting (cheap haulers)...in the end it will get everyone if they chose to haul cheap freight...in the end i will be better for it because i am not tearing up my equipment for a profit of .20 cents...i can go work for someone let the truck sit and make more for them and still have a nice truck when times are better.i am not giving up.i am just to smart..

I am not wound tight,i am just glad i do not have to run like a dog and make .20 cents profit....i can go work for joe blow at 40 cents a mile and wait it out,meanwhile you all are tearing up your trucks going no were fast...lol

B&T Rogers · Jan 24, 2009

1pissedoffdriver said: ↑

what you dont understatnd is 90% of all o/o's expences are the same give in take 10%...it is what it is..and at a 1.40 a mile,and all deadhead and all expences you will be lucky to make 10 cents a mile profit..
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10% is a big number to play with ..... Over a years time! If you could shave 5% you would be that much further ahead....

$125,000 a year # 10% .... Hm $12,500
@5@ .......Hm $6,250

That might be chump change to some , but not to me..

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