Is the problem my CB antenna?

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Diantane, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. Diantane

    Diantane Light Load Member

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    I have a Peterbilt 586 with a pair of 3 foot Firestik I's (fiberglass whip) on the standard mounts near the top of the cab. The SWR reads 1.4 (if I turn the RF power on my Galaxy DX-949 all the way up the SWR will go up to 1.8, but it is rarely above minimum which is about 4.5 watts dead key).

    We haul oversized concrete components (walls, decks, etc.) on flatbed 48 to 110 feet long (stretch trailers).

    When I talk to my escort(s) my voice comes over loud and clear. When I get about a quarter mile from them in a town I can't hear them anymore. On clear open highway I can only get a half to three quarter of a mile range.

    When I switch up to 19 and talk to my fellow truckers I can only talk to the ones right next to me. If there are no trucks near me or if the ones near me have the CB's off (listening to tunes) I am just talking to myself, because all I get is silence (sometimes I get faint chatter from far off radios).

    My CB is usually set up with Mic and RF Gain all the way up. The squelch is only up to the until the noise is gone. The ANL and Noise Blanker are on, but the Galaxy Noise Filter is off. I have tried turning the squelch all the way off and turned the RF gain down until the noise goes away, but that also cuts out most of the CB reception as well so I go back to the prior settings.

    Is the problem the antennas? The truck's exhaust is exactly 13 feet high and the top of the Firestiks are about 6 inches below that. Would a 4 or 4.5 foot antenna be better?

    Have looked at the K-40 4.5 foot adjustable fiberglass whips at the Pilot truck stops where I bought the Firestiks. Is this better or just a waste of another 50 bucks?
     
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  3. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    3 foot antennas are a bit short i would go to the 4.5 ft ones
     
  4. Xcis

    Xcis Medium Load Member

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    The minimum length of antenna that I would recommend is 4 foot long.

    But before you go out and buy another antenna, could you possibly borrow, for testing purposes, a longer antenna from another driver. If a different antenna length cures your problem, you then have a definitive answer before you spend your hard earned money. Just a suggestion.
     
  5. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    OK why 4 foot ?
     
  6. KE5WDP

    KE5WDP Road Train Member

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    Are you running them co-phased? If so, don't. Run one "hot" and the other for looks if you feel...

    Co-phased does nothing for truckers
     
  7. Diantane

    Diantane Light Load Member

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    When I first read about mounting a CB antenna in the mid 70's they said that the best place was in the center of your vehicle. If you mounted it at the back it would be good forward, but weak in the rear. If you mounted it on the right side, the left side would be good reception (somehow using the vehicle itself as a directional. When a trucker mounts CB antennas on either side of their cab it "balances" the reception. So making one of them a dummy will just kill the balance.

    Some of the drivers with the same truck our mounting their antenna on a rail behind the sleeper. This gives the "center of the vehicle" approach.

    K-40's site said that truck makers use the cheapest coaxial available and it should be replaced with the best you can find.

    I think this is what I am going to do. Buy me an 18 foot length of RG-58 A/U type cable and run it to a mount behind the sleeper.

    The minimum clearance of an overpass on the Interstates is 16 feet so as long as I keep the height of the antenna below that I should be fine (no, not even thinking about a 102 inch whip :)
     
  8. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    If you run 48 states you DON'T want to be over 13'6" with your antenna. I have Ham friends that have been hassled in scales for tripping electric eye sensors with antennas that were over 13'6", and I got pulled over at Eisenhower Tunnel for a 6 Meter whip that I had mounted at a 45 degree angle and was over 13'6" when the wind pushed it vertical. Fortunately for me when stopped and they measured me it was back to legal.
     
  9. KE5WDP

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    Then run one antenna. Looking cool won't help you get out. It is very simple. Run one vertical antenna and you will maximize your antenna system. There will always be line of sight issues with mobile antennas. But running co-phased will only help you in one direction.

    Omni directional is the way to go for mobiles.
     
  10. josh.c

    josh.c Road Train Member

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    Who told you that? Yeah, interstates are supposed to be designed with 16 feet of vertical clearance in rural areas. In urban areas, there only has to be a route available with 16 feet of clearance. Just right off the top of my head, you'll be hitting bridges all across the PA turnpike, I 40 through Nashville, and I 81 in between Bristol and Abingdon in your home state. Not to mention you've got to get off the Interstate sometime, and every DOT man worth his salt would be pulling you over. I almost hope you're kidding, but I don't want someone reading that 16 foot comment and taking it as gospel.
     
  11. b.bulldog

    b.bulldog Bobtail Member

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    i had the same problem got a hold of an extenal swr meter and even though cb meter said 1.3 swr the external meter said 3.0 swr made adjustments and now everything is all good hope this helps.
     
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