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Old 11.06.2007
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My experience with CRST- not good!

Let me preface this by saying that:

1) Those who know me will vouch for the fact that I am not a complainer and I will put up with a lot of abuse. I have been the sole female machinist in a shop of 90 men and a correctional officer at a male prison unit.....so I am not some "fluff-n-stuff" bent on safeguarding her manicure.

2) I have written witness statements from three other people who were in the truck at the time the incident below happened and who verified what I am about to tell you.

I entered CDL training through a pre-hire contract with CRST. I completed my training, got my CDL and proceeded to OKC for orientation. During orientation you are required to take a road test. This is reasonable- they are about to entrust you with a rather expensive piece of equipment.

There were 6 people crammed into this truck for our road tests. I was the last to test so I drove the truck back to the terminal. As we turned into the terminal, the evaluator took a call on his cell phone. I proceeded into the yard- I was in 2nd gear and kept it at between 1100 and 1300rpm. So I was going very slow and easy.

As I turned to park the truck the evaluator was still on his cell phone. About halfway through the turn I realized that I was not going to be able to complete the turn without eventually contacting the trailer next to me (on my left). I had driven only 48 foot trailers at the school they sent me to and this was a 53 foot trailer.

OK, no problem. There is still 15-20 feet between my trailer and the one next to me so I have time to stop the truck, cut back right, straighten out and come back around for another try.

I take my foot off the accelerator, engage the clutch, reach my right hand over to the left side of the steering wheel to start turning back to the right as I slow and stop the truck.......

It is at this time that the evaluator, still on his cell phone, looks my direction and in the mirror and sees the trailer. He flips out, starts yelling "Stop! Stop!" and hits the parking brakes. What the....????

He accuses me of not watching the trailer. I respectfully disagree. The three witnesses try to tell him that they saw me correcting the problem before he hit the brakes. He insists that I was not watching the trailer. There was still a good 15 feet between the two trailers.

I fix the problem and come back around and park the rig with no problems. The evaluator tells me that he will test me again that afternoon or the next day. Everyone who fails their first road test is being given a second one.

I was not retested that afternoon, so I figure I will be retested the following day- no biggie. We are dismissed for the day and head back to the hotel. Upon arriving at the hotel I am told, by the desk clerk, that I have to check out. HUH??? I call CRST to find out what the heck is going on. The lady I speak doesn't seem to know and faxes over a voucher for the night.

I arrive at the terminal the next morning. They call people who failed both road tests in to the office one at a time and give them the information to a refresher course that CRST is sending them to in OKC. They call me into the office and tell me that they are dismissing me because I "almost took out the whole side of a trailer". HUH??? Hardly! I call in the three witnesses who had seen what was going on. Nope.....they don't want to hear from them. I also point out that their own company policy states that drivers cannot talk on cell phones, even with a hands-free set, because they cannot safely manage that in addition to driving and monitoring the space around the truck (and I agree). So, please explain to me how the evaluator can talk on his cell phone and still adequately monitor the space around the truck AND what I am doing behind the wheel?
I also pointed out that the truck was in 2nd gear and never over 1300rpm from the time I turned into the yard. I was moving at 5mph or less. So, please explain to me how, IF the evaluator could manage talking on his cell phone while adequately evaluating me and monitoring what I was doing, is it that he let a situation develop where he felt the need to make a frantic grab for the parking brakes?

The only clear and reasonable answer is that he was not paying attention and, therefore, had no idea what I was doing- which was identifying the problem and taking steps to correct it.

So, I was offered NO second road test and NO opportunity to take a refresher course. This is a breach of contract based on lack of equal opportunity. I had to call an attorney to make them pay for my bus ticket home and he is also speaking with them about voiding my contract.

Their pay is not the best you can find for recent graduates, there were a LOT of drivers sitting at the terminal waiting for loads and for repairs (some had been there for 5-6 days) and I spoke to a trainee who had been with them for 47 days and had only completed 15-16 days of his 28 days of on the road training because of trainers home time and shortage of trainers. The rest of the time he had been holed up at the hotel because they required him to be available in case they found a trainer for him.

I hope this helps you.

PoundPuppy
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What a bunch of #$# wipes. was good that other 3 came into vouch for you. You may have some type of case if you want to pursue it. Probably not worth your trouble though. Hang in there and you will find a better company. Good luck!
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Thanks for your experience. I am so new to trucking that I haven't even started yet. I was supposed to start with CRST at the end of the month. I am so glad that I found this post (as well as others on this site). I'll look at other companies now (PAM, USA, and Central Ref) are in the running. Thanks again and good luck to you.
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Though I understand what you are saying OP their is no requirement for any company to retest you on a road test. If they decide to retest 30 drivers or 1 driver, that is their prerogative. Most drivers get one road test at most companies and if you fail they show you to the gate if they feel like it.

The issue with the evaluators conduct is separate from the issue of your being accepted for hire. A road test in orientation is not training, it is a pass or fail TEST. There not there to train you, but to evaluate you and even you said you had problems on the drive.

When you are operating a truck, you are in charge of the truck not anyone else and you should never assume you have more then one chance to make a good impression before being accepted for hire. Good luck in the future.
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The issue with the evaluators conduct is separate from the issue of your being accepted for hire. A road test in orientation is not training, it is a pass or fail TEST. There not there to train you, but to evaluate you and even you said you had problems on the drive.
Where in the original post did she say that she had problems on the drive? From what I read it does not sound like she is saying that she was asking for training or any help. She saw that she couldn't make it and was correcting herself, which I do believe is the correct thing to do. The problem was that the guy doing the evaluation was not paying attention and when he looks up and sees the other trailer he freaks out before he even has the chance to realize she is fixing problem.

To the OP: I am sorry you had such a horrible experience. My hubby and I are starting school with Interstate in Jan but we almost went with CRST. I am so glad that I found this website and heard the truth about CRST or we could have been in your shoes. Thanks for warning others.
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Contracts and Equal opportunity

Thank you Sassy.BigBlue- I was not expecting CRST to provide me with training during my road test. What I *was* expecting and was entitled to under laws regarding contracts was equal testing conditions. These conditions were not provided:1) The evaluator was on his cell phone during the last portion of my test. At no time during the testing of any other driver in the truck was he on his cell phone.2) Every other person at that orientation session, who did not pass their first road test, was given the opportunity to take a second road test. I was not given such an opportunity.3) Every other person at that orientation session who failed their second road test was given the opportunity to attend a refresher course at a local trucking school. I was not given this opportunity either.Now, having previously taken a number of paralegal courses, including several on contract laws:In "mass contract" situations (multiple people under the same contract either individually or as a group) equal opportunity must be given to each individual under the contract to fulfill the conditions of the contract. Failure to provide equal opportunity to fulfill the contract to each individual under the contract constitutes a breach of contract. ON THE UP SIDE:I start orientation with KLLM on Monday! The pay (cpm and orientation pay) is higher and the benefits are better. My home terminal will also be closer to my house.All in all, it has all worked out and I am happy with the end result.PoundPuppy
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before it's to late

You just saved me from go to jail, I mean CRST (LOL) cause me and him would had a problem, Now Im looking for new school...
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Please let us know how it goes, PoundPuppy. There are so few women drivers on here, it's great to hear how things are with you.

So glad you found the other company. Sounds like the first one was a total waste of time.

Good luck!!
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Old 12.23.2007
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An update!

Hi myminpins!

Things are going great at KLLM! My trainer picked me up on the day after orientation and we ran like rented mules until 12/21 when we came home for the holidays. He had already scheduled the time off and it was fine with me.
The longest we have waited to get a load was 4 hours and that was only on one load. The rest of the time we got a new load before we delivered the one we had. Keep in mind that this is the time of year that freight is at its slowest- so to not be waiting for a load or only waiting 4 hours for a load is pretty darn good!
When we got into the yard on 12/21 there was a catered meal waiting. The company treated its drivers to a holiday dinner complete with all the trimmings- turkey, stuffing, cranberry sauce, corn, green beans, apple pie, and more!
I am very happy with KLLM! Our PikePass, EZPass, SpeedPass and Indiana and Ohio toll cards are paid for by the company. The remaining tolls are readily reimbursed by them. TransFlo of our paperwork is free. Repairs are speedy as are resolutions to problems and concerns and answers to questions. We are known by name at KLLM rather than our employee ID numbers- which is refreshing. We do have to pay for an Enforcer lock set (two padlocks and a kingpin lock) when we get our own truck but the locks are ours to keep. We also get to keep the points and perks on the Pilot, Loves, TA and Petro cards (I know that Schneider, for one, doesn't let thier drivers keep the points and perks). Lumper fees are company paid at most places and reimbursed readily if there is no company account with the lumpers used. We have accounts with pretty much every truck wash in the country and so our trailer washouts are a drive in / drive out affair. Just sign the ticket and go. The same with repairs at TA shops (we had an air line break on our trailer and had to stop at a TA and have it fixed). If we feel road conditions are unsafe we have the right to pull over and park it- regardless of when the freight is due. KLLM makes it clear that safety is paramount and lives up to it.

I saw a rumor posted elsewhere that CRST owned KLLM- this is NOT true. CRST put in a bid for KLLM but I have been told that they were outbid by Jack Lyle and Jack will be taking the company back over in early 2008.

Happy trucking and Happy Holidays to all!

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I had a guy from the Cookesville,TN term for OD say that OD was trying to buy Averitt has anyone else heard this???
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