CR England - The real story

Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by BeanTownTrucker, Oct 8, 2008.

  1. lovesthedrive

    lovesthedrive R.I.P.

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    Wait, let me get this straight. You were able to get a truck yet didnt have the patience to wait so your cussing out the company cause you had to pay your own way home? Yet you had been off the road already for 90 days.

    The drivers that are there getting a truck for any length of time are the ones holding out for the rarity Peterbuilts or some other novelty because they dont want a run of the mill Century.

    10 day on the road with a trainer to make sure you are what you say you are for a driver is true. For all the rest it is 3 weeks driving with a trainer, then a test, then out with another driver whom really doesnt know what he is doing either for an additional 3 weeks, with a final test.

    If you want it, you will work for getting it. Sometimes the hardest work isnt doing anything. Yet CR will put you to work if you want while your sitting. Lord knows I found work when sitting.
     
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  3. Arthur1972

    Arthur1972 Bobtail Member

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    Maybe you do not know what you are talking about.
    I have been with CR for about 4 months now.
    They are less than truthful about almost everything they tell you.
    Waiting for a truck is a process weather you are going company or lease.
    They tell you you make 90 cents per mile and then charge 14 cents a mile variable mileage so you really only make 76 cents a mile. Making this the worst lease program I have saw except for JB Hunts.

    I currently am on a truck with my phase 2 trainer now. (60 days phase two now boys and girls at 12 cents a mile) though I am done with phase 2 training in fact I am done with all of my training. I have a choice sit in Salt Lake or Burnsharbor making no money or sit in a truck working for slave wages waiting for a truck. either way it is a piss poor choice.

    This company is not my first choice and I will likely be gone after I have 6 months recent experience.

    I was expecting a bad company when I arrived but it is worse than I expected. I am in too deep no to walk away but I wish I would have never got back in the trucking industry. It seems to me that dishonesty is the rule not the exception. Oh well two years and I will be gone.

    Good luck in this industry of pond scum.
     
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  4. diesel_dawg08

    diesel_dawg08 Light Load Member

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    hey bean town when you sit down and think about it carefully a company truck does 62mph you must log 57 mrh where is your math coming from company trucks do not do 65 you think before you responed
     
  5. lovesthedrive

    lovesthedrive R.I.P.

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    Diesel, Beantown is going by the math they teach at CR. The rule says the average driver does only 50 mph (hence where he gets the 50 in his equation). As to his truck governed? Lease trucks are 70 mph not 62.

    Basically? Do your driven miles for the day. Divide the hours into driven, you will find that your average mph is closer to 50 and not what your truck is governed at.
     
  6. diesel_dawg08

    diesel_dawg08 Light Load Member

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    when i was at england theywoul give log violations for over 3500 they say 3500 is all a solo can do legally i tried to figue out how 4000 is legal even at 50 mph ive even had a few people do the math and there was a few even at 11hrs driving and that is feuling pre trip in the morning post trip at night im not trying to be rude to him unless im missing something but #### is the company is a rip off to drivers that is in my eyes there is one piece of advice i got there is a company out there for every driver and england is and was not the one for me. i just hope that they dont screw with the drivers they have now lease trucks only do 67 company does 62 now they changed lease to 62 also
     
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  7. BeanTownTrucker

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    MMM... my truck does 72mph... guess you missed that part where I said I have been with England 4 years. hence rules are different for me. second, if you trip plan properly you will be parking where you are fueling (also I fuel every two days - 200g tanks bubba) and I fuel first thing in the am and do my pre trip on the island and a post has never needed to be logged. why the hell would you eat 15 minutes up when you are just going to pre-trip in the am??? But anyway. I run at 65mph. sometimes I may mash some gass but I run hard I take two 30m breaks and an hour lunch (just like a regular 9-5)

    I heard new leases were going to be 62mph but that's what happens when fuel is thru the roof. Also, I have turned in 4200 miles a few times and no log violations for that. matter of fact, I haven't had a major violation in 2.5 years. 8cpm varible right there, OFS is free and if I go thru Horizon my credit isn't an issue. I mentioned that because that is mostly due to average weekly miles, mpg, no log violations, perfect safety record etc etc etc

    I'm not trying to be rude either. I just think you should read the entire post before you try to tell me I am a liar. This was put up because people like you bash things you really have no clue about. The original post was called on I elaborated. you called me out I am elaborating further. I am still here. I am still with England. I am not pro england nor am I against them. Of course everyone is going to have a different experiance

    That goes for all of ya. I tire of this and for those few who were at burns and crying they had to go out for 10-14 days with a trainer due to a lapse in driving I am just betting it was closer to a year. Taking a guess ya were in BH what mmmm 3 months ago? Sound like the guy there crying about it. suck it up. all co's are going to put you thru remedial training if ya haven't been in a truck in 3+ months.

    For the ones waiting 2-3 weeks for a truck. Deal with it, you made that choice. Obviously ya didn't go there to make money or you would've been in the first truck they had.

    Last. 2 months as a cat? seriously, I'd belive that if you hadn't said ya were with them 4 months total... Also, why would u be on a Phase 2 trainers truck unless u started from scratch with CRE?? I ask because you speak of "rescent experiance" It's only people that just started driving that would be doing that. See, people like you. the "know it alls" are the reason I don't train. You are a danger to the people around you, do us all a favor and stop now and go home. You don't belong in this industry of "pond scum"

    Appearently I just got here and I don't know what has happened in the last 4 years or so with CRE. All I can say is the last few posts are the exact reason I started the thread. All of the whiners are coming forward now. My final message to all thinking about CRE. For what it's worth they have done right by me and yes, I have my griveances but if I had to choose Swift, Schnider, JB Hunt, US Express, Central or England it would be England and that's because I know the real story and not the crap people keep spreading.


    They really aren't for everyone but I can guarantee you will never get the entire truth for half these people claiming to have been screwed and for those you still haven't completely figured it out 4k can be done and I will continue to do it. And if you think I haven't had a DOT lvl 3 in the last 4 years you are an idiot. it is going to happen. to think less is moronic. Just run an England truck in Oregon or Washington, any co truck for that matter... you are a target, be sure of that.

    To the people that actually found this of some use thank forr actually taking the time to read. for the idiots that read the first post then click reply you may want to dig thru the last 10 pages and edjucate yourself on how running properly and having a solid plan works out in your favor.

    Oh lastly. I would never allow a trainiee to run at night. wayyyyyy to much can go wrong. Elk, deer, idiots in camakazi 4-wheelers, tired truckers yea... if something went wrong I would rather be behind the wheel and not a 2 week vet tyvm
     
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  8. BubbaTrucker

    BubbaTrucker "Iam Hanging in there"

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    Everyone has to remember one thing. One man's great company is another man's nightmare. Where one man can succed with a company, there is another man ( or woman ) saying about thier troubles with the same company. I have had that myself when I was with Fischer Trucking. I heard a few people complain about how they are, and I will tell you, I was with them for a year and they were good to me from day 1 until last saturday when I turned the truck for personal reasons.

    Point is exactly what I have stated above. One driver loves a company and has no problems, another driver may hate that same company.

    There are some who really do need to elaborate when they complain or like the company they run for.

    I will agree, there are many drivers out there who complain about not getting any miles. I heard drivers at the stops all the time saying they aren't getting the miles. But they are the same ones who 5 minutes later are saying they only drive 400 miles or less a day due to health issues. Some won't drive more than that due to not being able to find parking spaces.

    Some want 2 days off a week or want to be home every weekend. Drivers have many reason why they are not happy with who they are with. In return there are drivers who love the company, yes, there are swift, jb, schneider and werner drivers out there who love their company and no I havent been drinking today hahahahahaha.

    I have a freind who drove for shaffer who hated it for the full 7 months he was there. He always seemed to want the long haul runs, he would say to me and I quote

    ' All they give me is 350 to 450 mile runs, I want to do coast to coast."


    ok lets take a sec to examine this. You do 400 miles a day short runs, that will equal 2400 a week easy if not more.

    ok the flip side now, you hold out for 2 days. get a 1200 mile run. hold out for 3 more days and get a 1100 mile run. thats 2300 miles in 5 days. How much money did you spend at the truck stop them days holding out for a longer run next to what you would have spent when you drove them 400 miles a day.

    I will never and have never turned down any runs for any company I was with. I guess that is why I have a half way decent respectable DAC report. My problem with finding a job now is I have 2 speeding tickets last year in ohio. one was in auguest and the other was in december. One was 57 on a 55 and the other was 65 on a 55 and right now it is hard getting anything going. Regional / dedicated or local.

    That driver I spoke with is now with transam saying the same thing he did with shaffer, may, us xpress, and now with transam. He is now on his 5 company in 2 years. He leaves die to the 400 mile runs, but look at it this way, who will hire him with the track record he has jumping company to company. I know I wouldn't hire him and I know who he is.

    Just my two sence.

    Bubba
     
  9. ironpony

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    Yup...

    One man's disaster truckin' company is another man's way to make a good buck.

    It's what you make of the situation, and where you can take it once you get it straightened around to the way you want it. I drive for one of CRE's competitors - a company that get's trashed fairly regularily - but it's been working delightfully well for me.

    So hang in there, quit obsessing about the "lies" - get in your own truck, and make some money!
     
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  10. He who is called I am

    He who is called I am Medium Load Member

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    Or at least get in your own truck and after the first problem you run into with your company dont get p.o'd and quit then come bicker about it. LOL seems to be alot on here about that lately. No company is perfect for everyone but some people need to give it a little more time b4 you jump ship.
     
  11. knighton5

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    Sorry for changing the subject (but this thread is active with refer drivers), how often do you have to do a trailer wash (on avg.)? Is it after every load, or does it depend on what you hauled before? Thx
     
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