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    How about coming up with something original?

    Knowing what JCT pays, it's impossible for a solo to post some of the numbers I see here without "losing" trips and falsifying logs. I choose to run with a company without such expectations. And no, Swift isn't my only go-round.

    What are y'all going to do when you go paperless? I know what I'll do: keep making the same miles with the same profit and not lose everything. Because I don't count on an income that is unsustainable under e-logs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injun View Post
    How about coming up with something original?

    Knowing what JCT pays, it's impossible for a solo to post some of the numbers I see here without "losing" trips and falsifying logs. I choose to run with a company without such expectations. And no, Swift isn't my only go-round.

    What are y'all going to do when you go paperless? I know what I'll do: keep making the same miles with the same profit and not lose everything. Because I don't count on an income that is unsustainable under e-logs.
    Its absolutely doable. Keep your door shut and don't stop for more than 3 hours once your 11 starts. You'd be able to avg 700 miles a day. Legally too.

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    Well, if you check a LOT of other threads with folks running e-logs, you'll see that it is entirely possible to run 3500+ miles per week LEGALLY. As a matter of fact, there is one prominent poster from Crete who has been running legal and is hitting a LOT of weeks at 3200+ miles solo. Yes, he's a trainer also, but he is doing SOLO miles between trainees at 3200+. Visit the JBS thread and see the ones who are also hitting 3000+ miles. One just did 3400 miles on elogs a couple weeks ago. Heck, I did that much myself legally with PAPER logs.


    Impossible? FAR from it. Discipline, planning.

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    Yes. You would. On paper. I was doing this on a regular basis at (hold your ears and close your eyes) Prime. And making a reasonable profit despite the high fixed costs of $1,100/week. Not including health insurances. Once Prime went paperless, my miles fell significantly. Mainly because Sales didn't get the memo and was still booking loads as if we had wiggle room. Now, some things John Cut Throat has over Prime: mileage-based pay vs. percentage, lower lease payments, performance and safety bonuses and an actual lease-to-purchase $1 buyout program. Prime kind of missed the boat on that.

    I actually tried to apply to JCT at one time. My domicile is just outside the hiring area. After doing a lot of research, checking SEA Scores and listening to numerous drivers, I am glad I didn't move my address to sign up. I'd rather lolly-gag my way to $900-$1,200 checks with Steady Work In Fluctuating Times than take the risks y'all do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhed1964 View Post
    Well, if you check a LOT of other threads with folks running e-logs, you'll see that it is entirely possible to run 3500+ miles per week LEGALLY. As a matter of fact, there is one prominent poster from Crete who has been running legal and is hitting a LOT of weeks at 3200+ miles solo. Yes, he's a trainer also, but he is doing SOLO miles between trainees at 3200+. Visit the JBS thread and see the ones who are also hitting 3000+ miles. One just did 3400 miles on elogs a couple weeks ago. Heck, I did that much myself legally with PAPER logs.


    Impossible? FAR from it. Discipline, planning.
    Regarding our friend from Crete: I don't believe he's on e-logs yet. To my knowledge, they're still in the testing stage. At least that what I was told in February when I considered going with them.

    I have e-logs, and did 2700 in six days this past week, then came home. Our weeks run Sun-Sat. Week before that I did 3003 with a 34. The week I came out after last TAH was 2300 in five days. It's the dang short runs with a lot of live loading and/or live unloading that will cut into the productivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injun View Post
    Yes. You would. On paper.

    No..... I ran LEGAL on paper and did plenty of miles. Took me a while to figure it out after I refused to run illegal anymore (boy, they didn't like that), but once I figured out how to better manage my time, I was right back above 3k miles whenever the freight was available. That is the key, availability of freight and decent miles available to run.

    Again...... read around... I'm sure you've seen posts from folks ON e-logs right now that are LEGALLY doing 3000+. And those who are doing it legally on paper. I've mentioned the threads, I've done the math myself. It can be done, if your carrier dispatches decent enough runs to get those miles.

    I've not leased, and don't know if I ever will, especially after a friend of mine (a former member here) lost his kiester on a Prime flatbed lease back in 2007. I'm not saying it was Primes' fault, not saying it was his, but he was 11 months away from completing the lease and would get great runs one week, and then almost NOTHING for two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48Packard View Post
    Regarding our friend from Crete: I don't believe he's on e-logs yet. To my knowledge, they're still in the testing stage. At least that what I was told in February when I considered going with them.

    I have e-logs, and did 2700 in six days this past week, then came home. Our weeks run Sun-Sat. Week before that I did 3003 with a 34. The week I came out after last TAH was 2300 in five days. It's the dang short runs with a lot of live loading and/or live unloading that will cut into the productivity.
    Right, he's not on elogs yet. But he runs legally. When I think of all the weeks I massaged the books to get over 3k miles, I realize I could have still run over 3k if I were just logging legal and being much more efficient with my time. I know there are differences in paper/elogs, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I don't think the differences are that pronounced that it would prevent you from being profitable with elogs. To be honest, and I hate to say this, I think all the whining over elogs is just another thing to ###### about and something else to blame for low mileage. I like the idea of them because I think it helps keep the CARRIER honest, rather than being able to run you to death to the point where you are so tired it is PAINFUL. Cant tell you how many times I've been pushed that far....... until I put my foot down and refused to do it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48Packard View Post
    Regarding our friend from Crete: I don't believe he's on e-logs yet. To my knowledge, they're still in the testing stage. At least that what I was told in February when I considered going with them.

    I have e-logs, and did 2700 in six days this past week, then came home. Our weeks run Sun-Sat. Week before that I did 3003 with a 34. The week I came out after last TAH was 2300 in five days. It's the dang short runs with a lot of live loading and/or live unloading that will cut into the productivity.
    To me 2700 is not that impressive for 6 days or 2300 in 5. I'm a flatbedder at TMC and last week was a 4 day week because of a dr appointment on Monday. I left out early Tuesday morning and I got home Friday night and still did 2118 miles. Yes we are on paper logs but with as strict as they are with watching us on the quantum we might as well be on electronic logs. Everything is legal here. 4 days and 2118 miles and remember that's live loads with strapping/chaining and tarping the loads.

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    I forgot to mention that is doing 1 load per day so that is strapping/ chaining and tarping and undoing it all everyday.

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    The thing that led to LMB leaving JCT is he blew the engine in the T660 he had in Macon,Ga. I just hope it was not due to his mechanic at home working on it. Where I am at now at ACT I have made $13300 on 23000 miles in 2 months here which breaks down to .56 per mile after .07 is already put away into a maintenance fund. I only average about 2600 miles a week to make that. I am not scared of elogs one bit because we already have to run legal. Over a full yeat that average will end up being $79800 for the year. Now is JCT really so great? I know several drivers there who are killing themselves with 4000-5000 mile weeks that are not making that much.

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