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Problem with Clutch???

Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by Jellsworth19, Nov 23, 2013.

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  1. Nov 23, 2013 #1
    Jellsworth19

    Jellsworth19 Bobtail Member

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    Hey All, I have a "clutch-related" problem with my '06 Columbia, Detroit 60 with Eaton 10 speed.

    I cannot put the tranny into gear (or take it out of gear) with the truck running. The problem starting gradually about a month ago and now it's to the point where I have to start "in gear" and shut it off to take it out of gear. What's interesting is that the clutch pedal is very firm with about 3/4" - 1" of free travel. I don't know much about clutches but I thought the pedal usually goes all the way to the floor when a clutch goes out?

    Any help would be appreciated!

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  3. Nov 23, 2013 #2
    Chip S

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    Do you know what kind of clutch is installed? Your internal adjustment may not be set right. The clutch brake could also be worn
     
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  4. Nov 23, 2013 #3
    ampm wayne

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    The clutch does not always go to the floor when they go out. Sometimes they get really stiff and you can not push it to the floor.

    What do you mean when you say you can not get it in gear? Is it stuck in gear or is it grinding too bad to get it gear?

    If it is grinding it is a broken or out of adjustment clutch brake. That is an easy fix.

    If it is sticking in gear it is probably a bad clutch.
     
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  5. Nov 23, 2013 #4
    Jellsworth19

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    Not sure what type of clutch? I will have to do some research. Again, I don't know much about these... what do you mean by internal adjustment?
     
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  7. Nov 23, 2013 #5
    Jellsworth19

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    No "ampm wayne" it's not stuck in gear. I can force it "in and out" but it grinds really bad. And I know that can't be good so I'll start it in gear and shut it off to take it out.
     
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  8. Nov 23, 2013 #6
    Chip S

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    Clutch adjustment is done in two steps. The first adjustment is an internal adjustment. If you take the inspection cover off, you can check the clearance between the throw out bearing "the bearing that the forks are touching" and the clutch brake (the disk closest to the trans) It should be 1/2-9/16". That would be a good time to also inspect the clutch brake to see if you can spin it. If it spins, the locking tangs are broken, and you will need a new clutch brake. Also check the friction material on the clutch brake.
     
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  9. Nov 23, 2013 #7
    Chip S

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    Never posted the second step.

    After the internal adjustment is made, you adjust your linkage for pedal freeplay
     
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    Jellsworth19

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    Ok thanks "Chip S". How much freeplay is typical?
     
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  11. Nov 23, 2013 #9
    Chip S

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    1-2". Just remember, if you have 1-2" of freeplay like you stated in the beginning of the thread, doesnt mean the internal adjustment is correct.
     
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  12. Nov 23, 2013 #10
    wichris

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    More likely to be a disk coming apart.
     
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