The Perfect Lease Purchase Contract!

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by SheepDog, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. SheepDog

    SheepDog Road Train Member

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    IF the company you are leasing from pays a full bumper to bumper warranty, your good at $1300 a week after all expenses. No?
     
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  3. bigdad7

    bigdad7 Road Train Member

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    No not even close after self employment taxs insurance etc.....someone else controlling your maint is a horrible idea fleet maint might look at 5.5 mpg and say everythings fine nothung to fix....if they are paying do you think you will get premium tires or xheap chineese etc you will hear over and over its within spec what do they care if the cac leaks you pay for fuel not them
     
  4. dgarricksr

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    How about a 2014 peterbilt 587 with a 4yr/600,000 mile warranty? Company lease drivers are averaging 1.65 a mile and more. trucks are averaging around 7.5mpg and some are hitting 8.0 100% fsc to driver. Does that sound good?
     
  5. SheepDog

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    Look brother man, we are talking about a L/P, this is how it is done in that world. What I am trying to do is figure out, for those that are going to do it, what the best L/P deal would look like. $1300 minus taxes (25%) = $975 Out of that, the driver should put away as much as possible, for sure. If your talking about Health Ins. lol that comes later brother. Yes, someone controlling your maintenance is bad but, that is part of L/P We are not talking anything here but L/P. Nope, no premium tires and good specs,,,so sorry, not happening in a L/P

    bigdad7, I am not trying to convince you to do a L/P I am trying to help out those that are going to do it, hech,,,,I may do it myself. Stop having the "trying to stop them from doing it" mentality. They are going to do it, no matter what you or anyone says. Yeah, they may be stupid for doing it but, you don't have a clue to their situation and just saying, "don't do it, bad idea" is not a fits-all way to go.
     
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  6. SheepDog

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    Need ALL the info on that L/P deal. I will say, I don't think ANYONE should L/P a new truck but, that is my opinion only. I will also tell you that my break-even is $1.67 and that is with the driver (me) making $35,000 a year. When your looking at any L/P deal, put the company out of your head, same with location. Only look at the deal they are offering..
     
  7. bigdad7

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    I didnt say dont do it i just said a program where someoneelse is responsible for the maint is bad juju ....and i am doing a lease purchase but if your going to take the risk you need to be able to manage it never would i want to pay a fleet to manage maint......
    Your question is valid what is an optimal Situation it is one where you have control over revenue and manage the equip.....and imo anything less than 10k a month after fuel makes it not worth the risk....1300 a week not even close because where are you left when you have a performance issue that is costing you fuel but they wont fix it because it still runs your 1300 just became 800 thats bad juju
     
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  8. dgarricksr

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    have spoken with 3 different drivers and a dispatcher and all the numbers pretty well match up from what recruiter stated. about 4,300 to 4,500 a week in gross revenue. approx 1,250 in expenses ie payment insurance permits and such then fuel. average take home is between 1,200 to 1,750 depending on mpg.
     
  9. SheepDog

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    Sounds to me like you have a great L/P deal bigdad7...tell us the details but, feel free to leave the company name out. The way I see it, you can look at it this way; as a company driver you make $750 a week and as a L/P operator you take home $750 after EVERYTHING. As a L/P operator I get to choose when/where/how much, and eventually I will own the truck. Than I can trade it off or keep it. That is my perfect L/P deal. Sure, I would hope I make more than that but, that is my minimum. If I was to make that every week, I would be good and here is why. I only have $1500 a month in personal expenses and prayfully my luck with trucks stays strong. I would put every penny away for a time when a break down occurred, no pay that week.. That is me, you may have more personal expenses and no way could survive on $750 a week. If the guy with no credit or savings had to worry about maintenance right out of the shoot, he would not last the 1st break down.
     
  10. SheepDog

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    Not telling you NOT to do it brother,,,just would like you to post ALL the details, not just some of them and we don't care what the recruiter said. The more details you post the better than, a driver could make an informed decision on whether or not to even call the company or move on. So, please post ALL details of this L/P deal,,,thanks
     
  11. dgarricksr

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    Ok what details are you looking for? payment is 979 which includes physical damage and apu. the rest comes out to about 1,250 a week ie QUALCOMM permits plates insurance. 100% fsc. 70% of load revenue. average revenue is 4,500 a week. fleet mpg is about 7.5 and some are averaging almost 8.
     
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