Life in North Dakota "Man Camps"?

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  1. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Well... I front wheel drive handles snow just fine, if you want more security any of the new winter tires give you phenomenal grip compared to all-season tires. Make sure you have your battery load tested, as one that works fine in temperate Cali won't do squat @-20*.

    The other thing you'll need to know is about what to wear. The outer layer is likely as not to be the flame retardent, then your insulated coveralls (if you're lucky the company will provide insulated flame retardent,) or jacket and bibs depending on your preference. Street clothes under the insulated, and then any of the high performance thermal unders. Wool or high-performance socks. Depending on what your doing determines the gloves you wear, but spend the money on thinsulate gloves, rather than regular insulation. The dexterity is better, and they work even wet. And if you tend to have cold hands, I would invest in glove liners as well; I use thermastat brand by dupont. And insulated boots, too.

    Layers is the trick to staying warm, and gives you the ability to regulate your temp by adding or removing a layer. I'm a hot sort, but unless the wind is up and temp below -20, I usually don't even bother with the thermal underwear, but I'm active when I'm outside, too. If you're standing around in the cold, you'll want all the layers you can get! OH YEAH, hardhat liners are lifesavers, get a good warm one!
     
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  3. sexystuff911

    sexystuff911 Light Load Member

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    Thanks, Hammer166!

    I'll have to check what type of battery the dealership put in my car. I had the ignition, battery, belts and hoses replaced about 8 months ago. Btw, this is a 1997 Nissan Maxima that was "gently used" by my parents. I got the car "by accident" (literally). I borrowed it when I was home from the road, and a big rig backed into it in a Walmart parking lot. He wiped out the trunk. i reported it as a hit and run because it was Christmas, the car was doubly insured by my, and my parents, policies, and I felt bad for the trucker who hit it. He was exhausted and pathetic. Insurance repaired the car, but my folks gave it to me anyways. They bought a new car while the Maxima was in the shop. The car is old, but has low milage and was well cared for.

    Thanks for info about clothing! The company only said they provide all FRC and safety equipment except steel toed boots. I didn't know to ask whether their clothing is insulated! I guess I should buy some insulated clothing to take with me in case the clothes the company provides is inadequate? On the other hand, I don't want to buy too much here (if I can buy any at all, given our temperate, inland environment). I'm sure the choices are better, and the prices cheaper, in North Dakota. Should I plan to wear Levis under the FRC? I'm also a "hot" person, but I hate wet, cold feet. And, I hadn't thought about what to put on my head! I don't like cold ears, either! I'll definitely check into the gloves you recommended, and the hard hat insulator, before I leave, too. I just stocked up on wool socks, and I have two pairs of steel toed boots.

    I've never driven a "slip-seated" truck before. I'm wondering about the CB? Understand, I'm a relatively new driver (5 years), and I've only driven for a couple companies. I'm not chatty on the CB, but I'm highly dependent on it to ask more experienced truckers directions when I'm lost, advice when I'm in a jam, or just for the reassurance of listening to them talk so I know I'm not alone and there's help out there if I need it (I've never liked talking to dispatchers about the truck or the job site because they aren't in the field, nor do they drive a truck). Does the company provide CBs? Do they work? Should I bring one I can keep in the trunk of my car, and then throw on the dash, plug into a cigarette lighter, and comes equipped with a magnet antenna to use in the truck, just in case? Do the load and unload sites communicate with trucks on the CB, like they do at quarries?

    I'm assuming I'll need the regular array of tools I would carry with me on any truck... you know, hammer, wrenches, vise grips, screw drivers, channel locks, and such. I'm used to leaving these in the truck, but I'll get a canvas tool bag from Home Depot so they are portable. And, a thermos for hot coffee... Are there any other tools that are particularly important in the oil field or snow? Like a folding shovel, for instance? I know I wished I had a shovel one time in a winter storm in Wisconsin! I got the truck stuck in a snow drift, and had to use the plastic lid from my triangles case to dig myself out!

    Thank you for the extremely relevant information! I'm going to check out the outdoorsman stores and army outfitters tomorrow! You are awesome (and will have likely kept me from freezing to death)! Thanks!
     
  4. QualityMike

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    I know you said the battery was checked a while ago, but they checked it for West Coast weather. I would advise replacing the battery with the most extreme battery they have (Les Schwab Xtreme battery cost me $ 110 and was good down to -40. My vehicle started every time, even at -20). They make window washer fluid with antifreeze. I described the man-camp situation as bad but it was tolerable in the short term. I was in it for 8 months. Don't buy an RV before coming up. Make the move, take the company housing, and next spring you will have a better idea what will work for you.
     
  5. MJ1657

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    Make a stop at one of the Cabelas in MN on your way up for your thermal under clothes. A little spendy but they have the warm high quality stuff.

    I spend a great deal of my time out on the ice in the winter. I used to buy the cheap long underwear. Finally broke down and tried some of the good stuff. Unreal how much better it fits and keeps you warm.

    Edit: I looked at the op's location and somehow my brain didn't connect and I thought it said n carolina. Scratch that stop in MN.
     
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  6. Hammer166

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    An 8 month old battery should be okay.

    I don't think I'd wait until ND to get the winter gear. A stop in Billings along the way would save some cash and give you more selection. Levi's are a good choice for cool weather, shorts for warm. I haven't had to wear a hardhat for years, so I'm not sure what's available for liners (edit: search arctic hardhat liner), but that is pretty much what you'll have for your head and ears. A balaclava of some sort for the really cold stuff is nice, too. Some people use the '180' style earmuffs, as the band is on the back of your head, I don't think it'd get in the way of the hard hat.

    Not sure on the CB. Back in my oilfield days we didn't slip seat, so can't answer that one. And unless things have changed, generally the CB is just for driver to driver comm. A folding shovel or even a full size is a definite must in my book, it'll save you some trouble along the way somewhere!

    You are quite welcome! Hopefully someone who's actually working out there can fill in a few of the gaps on the specifics for the oilfield. But staying warm I know about, I've been hauling cars in the Dakotas for quite a while, and often spend a couple hours at a time out in the cold.
     
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  7. taz125

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    Hammer, when you ran the oil fields up in ND did you run during the winter months or did they have you guys that drove do other things during those months?

    Thanks for the info trying to figure out if I should look at ND or TX as possible places to work.....
     
  8. 58Skylane

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    I've been running loads into Williston and Sidney the last few months. It's pretty much 24/7/365, rain, snow, ice, or shine.

    About the CB...... Unless I'm not on the wrong channel (19), I hadn't heard much buzz at all each time in/out of that area.

    And don't expect to keep your truck clean on the outside!!

    I'm not sure of the tire laws and usage in MT and ND, but if you can, I'd invest in a set of studded tires for the winter months.

    And I'm not sure if it was mentioned. Non-Flamable clothing is a must if your working in and around hazardous areas.

    Good luck to you!
     
  9. sexystuff911

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    Hammer166,

    I've been researching the clothing you recommended. I found a lot of information about layering at www.outdoorgearlab.com. They test and review outdoor clothing, and have a great section explaining the costs/benefits of the various materials used(wool, synthetic, thinsulate, ect.). Here's some of the choices I made. Let me know if you think they are adequate.

    Base layer: http://www.amazon.com/Smartwool-Wom...TF8&qid=1379307306&sr=1-20&keywords=smartwool

    Insulating layer: undecided

    FR layer: Carhartt insulated bib coveralls and duck coat with hood (these are expensive! OMG!)

    Hardhat liner: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029ZC7AA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ARTYNYV3ZNNSA

    Hat: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AXSKFPO/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2UV5VODOQ10HY

    OR... http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-Melton-Wool-Trooper-Hat-for-Men/product/10230418/

    Gloves: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E3CDQ2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    Glove liners: undecided. I have to go to REI and try them on...

    Socks: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KXBDDG/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AMAE8K0LRQPCN

    Sock liners: undecided

    I shopped for tire chains for my car, too. Do you, or anybody, have experience with these chains? Do you think they are overkill? I haven't purchased the chains, yet. They are very expensive. I want to price the winter weather tires, first. I assume I'll still need to carry chains if I buy winter tires?

    Tire chains: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UNRJ2Y/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
     
  10. sexystuff911

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    GEAR BAG OPTIONS FOR THE OIL FIELD:

    Since I'll be driving a slip-seat truck, I was wondering how I was going to cart all my equipment, including hart hat and FR clothing, back and forth to truck. Although a large duffle bag would work, they rarely have enough large, roomy pockets for the hart hat and stuff.I found a Fireman's Gear Bag online, and it looks like it may work well for the oil fields.

    Fireman's Gear Bag: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013KUCQI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3ED6D6AQ6MT8T


    I looked at Military Canvas Mechanic's Tool Bags for the truck, but they were awfully small and there were complaints about the zippers breaking and the canvas not being study enough to support the sides of the bag when you are digging for tools. I found this Police Large Equipment Gear Bag, which is cool, but I don't think I'll need it in addition to the Fireman's Gear Bag. I wouldn't want something that says, "POLICE" on the side anyways! I just thought I'd throw it up here for others who may be looking for a gear bag.

    Police Large Gear Bag: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BFLFDA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=APC8JD32JCPLZ

    Here's another gear bag option for others who might be looking.

    Parachute Bag: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XNRWRK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3GS3CD9G1MDLS
     
  11. Hammer166

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    The wool might be more comfy, but personally I prefer the wicking of the synthetics. They're thinner and cheaper than the merino, just don't feel (or look) as good! LOL!

    They are. I can't remember what you'll be doing out there, but if your physically working you can get buy with the regular ones, but if you going to standing out in the cold, you'll be happier with the arctic weight. They are a little bulkier, but a bunch warmer. Another thing to think about is how often you'll be in and out of the truck. If it's very frequent you'll want the lighter, as you won't be taking them off between stops, and you'll get sweaty in the heavier stuff.

    That trooper hat might work, you want something that has the loops so it stays attached to your hard hat. I almost forgot, your hardhat liner will have to FR, too!
    I have a pair very similar to this except they are Wells Lamont. I use the 100 weight thinsulate in normal temps, and the 200 when it gets below zero. And you always want more than one pair in case one pair soaks thru, you can trade to the other pair. http://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Wi...9312029&sr=1-7&keywords=200+thinsulate+gloves

    http://www.amazon.com/MCR-Safety-9620-Thermostat-10-Gauge/dp/B004HMHFAU You can find these elsewhere, but you want this type; they are similar to a compression sock in feel, and only minimally degrade dexterity. These things are awesome, I've used them for years now.

    Should be fine.

    Panty hose or stockings work, and they are supposedly very warm.

    Any of the Blizzak style winter tires will pretty much negate the need for chains. If you're going to driving the car out onto location, you might want some for just in case, but I've never used them on a car or pickup. (one of those collapsible shovels should go in the trunk, too. Along with a couple blankets and maybe a sleeping bag, a gallon of water for sure, and some snacks if you think about it. Won't need them in town, but if going anywhere, better safe than sorry.) A bag of kitty litter makes for a nice traction enhancer if you need it.
     
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