Do you qualify as an "automobile transporter?"

Yeah I saw those rates last year they were crazy! I was wishing I had a stinger at that time lol

 

Nissan (DAS) has always been notorious at looking to drive the rates lower. We used to have the Nissan haul out of Port of Long Beach and rail traffic into Phoenix. Back around 2001, 2002 it was time to renew the contract. We had already given them a backhaul rate on the Long Beach traffic as it put trucks into position for headhaul Ford traffic from Phoenix to Las Vegas and then back into Mira Loma. They said sharpen your pencil. We came back with a revised rate. They balked and wanted lower. Bill Hadley said have at it, we are done, we cannot haul for the price you want. The carrier that did get the Long Beach traffic promptly went belly up, as they had nothing out of Phoenix to go back home with.

 

Don't worry, Slant, Nissan isn't only the one with the bean counters awarding contracts to carriers at unsustainable rates.

 

SO, while I was on the road I got to thinking about this post, so let's look at the issue of high mounts from a worst case scenario, let's say that the laws concerning 53' high mounts never change and we are stuck with what we have, and I am going to assume that as long as we have no cargo on the power unit, we CAN'T be classified as an "auto-hauler" follow me so far?

So here is where I am at, I am guessing that for states that do not specifically address overhang (either front, rear or both) that you would then be thrown into whatever was grandfathered in for a semi trailer before the freeze took place? Is that what the rest of you are thinking?

Or does no over hang off a 53' mean that you can have untold overhang off a 48' or a 50' hell let's just cut 6" off the front of my trailer if I can overhang a 52'6" starts getting pretty silly doesn't it.

IF keitht is still following this, without knowing what state he is in can we at least get an idea of what that state says about overhang or load OTHER than a 53'? Thanks in advance.

 

Im thinking it would be 53' total. I run a 51' trailer and Ohio only allows me 2' of overhang.

Not that I listen to them.

 

I used to run a 48' 6-car. The 4806 is a total piece of poo by the way. Cottrell calls it a 4807 which is mostly a lie. I was able to get 4 very small compacts across the top with 4 feet off the front and about the same off the rear but it was way too much work and the cars could only have 1/2 inch between them. I digress. I believe the 4 foot off the rear and/or 3 feet off the front applies as long as the total does not exceed 53' (so, 1' off the front and 4' off the rear). My record was almost 7 feet off the rear with 3' off the front for a total of 58'. My tails were so low, I was sparking everytime I hit a bump...lol. It was a 25 mile trip so I figured why not. In order to cross scales with that piece of poo, you really have to have a 5 car load to keep the rear overhang under 4' unless there's a not so Smart car in the mix.

 

Hey Keith, let me make sure I am understanding correctly what you are saying, in the above quote,

If you have a 53 ft trailer, then you can't have ANY overhang. (Unless you meet the Federal definition of an auto hauler) If you have a 48 ft trailer, then you are allowed overhang as long as the combined length of the trailer and load do not exceed 53 feet.
So with a 48 foot trailer, you could overhang 5 feet in the rear (for example)


You are talking about "YOUR" state??? Just want to make sure I have that right, or are you talking about ALL states???

 

What was throwing me off was you saying you can have no load off a 53' which as you have illustrated above is a state issue, not a federal issue, correct?

The way you stated it originally made it sound as NO overhang off a 53' trailer anywhere. That's all I was after, because basically there are only 13 states that you are not allowed some kind of overhang off a 53' trailer.

I just have to make sure we don't patronize those states when we have overhang.

Thanks Stan