Logging as a local driver

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by LovemyGPS, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. LovemyGPS

    LovemyGPS Bobtail Member

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    Do you have to keep a driver's log if you just do local deliveries without leaving the state?
     
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  3. jakebrake12

    jakebrake12 Road Train Member

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    If your route is over 100 air miles or 12 hours yes. It has nothing to do with state lines.
     
  4. Bent Wrench

    Bent Wrench Medium Load Member

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    Local Has nothing to do with leaving the state.

    Read the rules, 100 mile radius of your assigned terminal, hours still apply.

    Technically no you do not have to log, however an up to date logbook to waive at the mounties eliminates many questions.
     
  5. LovemyGPS

    LovemyGPS Bobtail Member

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    So if I do some local stuff under 100 miles I don't have to log it?
     
  6. jakebrake12

    jakebrake12 Road Train Member

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    Not if that's all you do - legally you don't have to fill out a log but your company could require it. If you work more than 12 hours though you have to no matter how many miles you drive. Our safety department is very good about answering log questions and I was also told by them if I had to fill out a log on say Tuesday because I worked more than 12, I had to complete logs for the rest of the week no matter how long I worked.

    But if you work less than 12 hours per shift and your furthest point is less than 100 air miles the answer is no, you do not have to keep a log.
     
  7. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Jake there's other requirements too that must be followed for the 100 mile rule. LovemyGPS can find all he needs at the FMCSA site under §395.1 (e).
     
  8. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Under 100 air miles, no log needed, BUT, your employer must keep time records, such as time cards etc.
     
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  9. RJ33RD

    RJ33RD Heavy Load Member

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    No it depends on your company policy , some companies say that 100 air miles but its more like if u work over the twelth hour for my company. So it just depends on ur company policy ...
     
  10. tnfiretech

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    I have driven for companies that would say that it is legal to run with burnt out lights as long it is daytime. Company policy means nothing if it is in violation with the FMCSR.

    FMCSR 391.5(e) has the rules regarding who is exempt and what is required. And it is both 100 air mile radius and no more than 12 hour shift, and that would include a lunch break. It is stated as no more than 12 consecutive hours, to me this means 11.5 on duty if you have a 30 minute lunch.

    Also, companies can require that you run a log anyway. 391.5(e) does not say that you can not use a log. It simply states that you are exempt from having to comply with 395.8 which is keeping a daily log.

    I have a new safety guy at work. He wants everybody to keep a log that leaves the yard. Yard Dogs are exempt. The problem is that he wants us to log everything as on-duty not driving. Try to get by on that one, "yes Mr. DOT, I know that I am driving, but the safety dept does not like to see a lot of lines drawn." Better yet, he wants the miles driven and trailers pulled and PTI, but no driving line entries. Sounds like log falsification to me.
     
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  11. x#1

    x#1 Road Train Member

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    I'd certainly do a PTI on a daily basis regardless.THAT,along w/a start/stop time work sheet has allowed me to keep easing on many times in the past.

    I'd go ahead and log it all if you are so confused about it now thereby eliminating doubt.what would it take,an extra 5 minutes daily to be stress free?
     
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