What are ALL the legit reasons for idling on city streets (including small vehicles)?

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by CityResident, Sep 27, 2014.

  1. CityResident

    CityResident Bobtail Member

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    Hi all, COMPLETELY ignorant about trucking here, I've never been a trucker or CDL holder, just a regular license holder; you may also see that my terminology is all wrong; please forgive that.

    My question is not limited to trucks. I hope that's ok; I figured this audience still might be the most knowledgeable.

    WHY do so many vehicle operators leave their engines running on city streets even when they know they're not going to be moving their vehicle for at least several minutes, sometimes much longer than that?

    Of course I am aware of some reasons: in order to keep climate control working; in order to operate some connected equipment that needs engine power; in certain 20+year old vehicles, starting the engine uses more fuel; to indicate to a traffic cop that the vehicle is only stopped for a moment, etc. I'm trying to find out the reasons I'm NOT aware of--and again, about all kinds of vehicles, if possible, not just the trucks normally discussed on this forum.

    Let me give a few scenarios I've witnessed and ask if you can explain why that driver might have been idling, and maybe these examples will remind you of others you can illuminate me on:

    -Crew of a van doing some work in a nearby building; they're moving stuff in and out of the van. I can't see any reason they need the engine running, but they've put chocks around all the wheels and have left the engine running. It was a very new looking van. Why?

    -Guy sitting in his new SUV in an on-street parking spot. Engine idling; I figure he's just waiting for someone and didn't feel like turning off the engine and turning it back on again. But then I finish my hour-long errand, and when I come back, the guy's still sitting there, reading, with his engine running. Why? Legitimate reasons you can think of?

    -Drycleaning guy makes a delivery from his van. Leaves the engine running, puts it in park, hops out, goes into a shop for two minutes, comes back and drives off. Van isn't more than 10 years old. Why? Is it really just because he doesn't want to go to the trouble of taking out the keys and putting them back in?

    -Guy goes into a 7-11 for a pack of cigarettes. Leaves his engine running in the parking lot, with his key in, window open. I used to see this one ALL THE TIME. Why?

    Finally, I guess I should point out that while I'm sure you could dream up reasons that are unique to those scenarios above, but I chose those examples because they're typical of what I see *all the time*. If you can inform me as to why practices like the examples above are so incredibly widespread I'd be very grateful.

    One last thing that might help narrow your answers: can you rule out this silly hypothesis I've had for years? Do a significant number of people do this JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN OLDER OR COOL PEOPLE DO IT? Seriously. Forgive me if that's the most ridiculous part of this way-longer-than-expected inquiry, but I'm really curious about this; have been for years. If you can educate me about this I'd be very appreciative.
     
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  3. j_martell

    j_martell Light Load Member

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    I idle my truck (and car, it's also a diesel) before shut down to allow things to cool off.....If I'm only gonna be gone a minute, I'll leave it run. If i think ill be a bit, I'll let it cool (5-7 mins) and shut it down....
     
  4. amiller

    amiller Medium Load Member

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    People have the ability to do things without a purpose. Like asking a question like this. Why do you ask?
     
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  5. JReding

    JReding Road Train Member

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    Regarding the reasons you listed ad legitimate, you're mostly correct.
    As far as the ones you questioned, I think you're pretty close on most of those as well: I can see no legitimate reason for it, other than the guy going into the dry cleaners. But as far as I'm concerned, to each his own...
     
  6. Shaggy

    Shaggy Road Train Member

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    Because I can. The Enviromental hippies / State laws /Company policies are all suggestive. Similar to Recycling. It's all good in theory, A bunch of desk jockeys / Good Idea fairies/ Wondering public nothing else better to dictate in freedoms of others. Several hours Idling could understand with zero occupants. Several minutes, Go pound sand !

    Want to steal my ride, screw it. That's what insurance is for. Nothing personal is in it, have fun and enjoy the ride !

    Idle everything I drive ( Company, POVS )for several minutes on warm ups / Kwik E mart purchases etc etc etc.. Killing the Enviromentals slowly and leaving the coppers something to do with a potential stolen ride.:biggrin_255:
     
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  7. Marksteven

    Marksteven Road Train Member

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    I'm the worst offender at my company for idling
     
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  8. barroll

    barroll Road Train Member

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    It can't not start if it doesn't stop running.
     
  9. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    I remember a few years ago that insurance doesnt cover an unattended vehicle that is left running.
     
  10. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Some drivers, trucks especially, have weak batteries and don't want to risk shutting the engine off, for fear of having to call road service. Then the guy idling his car reading is probably a wimp who can't stand the A/C being off. I mean, come on, it's really hot out there, probably 75 degrees !
     
  11. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    A good share of states have an idling law in place which means no idleing after 5 minutes but depending on the state some don't enforce it.I have never obeyed the no idleing law or policy carriers have.I idle simply for the sound.I don't like when it's too quiet.
     
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