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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrnr1951 View Post
    Is it a pistol, rifle, or shotgun?? They MUST hold some kind of weapon against the drivers head !!!! Help me to understand this !!!!!! Or are folks just that ----shall I say dense????????
    jtrnr,

    it has to be the way they present the rate per mile to these drivers...starting pay at $.98/mile versus $.31/per mile. That is all I can figure.

    Secondly, they can't have a clue as to what it costs to operate a rig WITH NO EXTRAORDINARY MAINTENANCE costs mostless when something breaksdown.

    If I am off with my brief example please strighten me out.

    Say a $1 per mile. You have a great week and you drive 3000 miles. You just grossed, THAT IS GROSSED, $3000 for the week.

    But what did it cost you to operate that truck for the week? At 6 MPG, you burned 500 gallons of fuel...at $2.85 per gallon less fuel surcharge of say 34%, you just spent 3000 x $1.88 or almost $1000 on FUEL ALONE!!!

    Now you are down to $2000 left. Lets say that you had to replace a couple of tires at $400 each. Now you are down to $1200.

    You haven't eaten a bite, you've not performed any other maintenance on the truck. You haven't sent Mama a dime to pay the bills.

    What happens when (not if, because we know it will happen eventually) the transmission or AC or water pump goes out?

    What happens when you only get 2000 miles for the week? Or when fuel prices get back to $4/gal.

    I just don't see it on a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94nole View Post
    jtrnr,

    it has to be the way they present the rate per mile to these drivers...starting pay at $.98/mile versus $.31/per mile. That is all I can figure.

    Secondly, they can't have a clue as to what it costs to operate a rig WITH NO EXTRAORDINARY MAINTENANCE costs mostless when something breaksdown.

    If I am off with my brief example please strighten me out.

    Say a $1 per mile. You have a great week and you drive 3000 miles. You just grossed, THAT IS GROSSED, $3000 for the week.

    But what did it cost you to operate that truck for the week? At 6 MPG, you burned 500 gallons of fuel...at $2.85 per gallon less fuel surcharge of say 34%, you just spent 3000 x $1.88 or almost $1000 on FUEL ALONE!!!

    Now you are down to $2000 left. Lets say that you had to replace a couple of tires at $400 each. Now you are down to $1200.

    You haven't eaten a bite, you've not performed any other maintenance on the truck. You haven't sent Mama a dime to pay the bills.

    What happens when (not if, because we know it will happen eventually) the transmission or AC or water pump goes out?

    What happens when you only get 2000 miles for the week? Or when fuel prices get back to $4/gal.

    I just don't see it on a good day.

    Your right drivers see .93 mi and figure 2500-3000 miles and think it's good money so they sign that lease. Then they get their settlements and say what do mean I have to pay for this and that. The only way run a truck is to buy one outright. If buy a used one, you better make sure you have at least 10,000 - 20,000 in the bank to repair it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2insane View Post
    Hidden Charges!

    Tire Wear Prorated per 32nd Tires around $400.00 around $25.00 per 32nd per tire thats 10 x

    PM Service 30,000 Miles 300.00 - 400.00
    Alignment 90,000 Miles 20.00 - 100.00
    Overhead PM 200.00 - 400.00
    Batteries prorated 36 months
    Crankcase filter 90,000 Miles 200.00 - 500.00
    APU Service 30,000 Miles 100.00 - 250.00
    DPF 200,000 Miles 480.00 - 750.00

    YOU PAY ALL OF THIS!!! BLOW A TRACTOR TIRE BAM $400.00 CHARGED TO YOU.

    Estimated charges for a 6 month Lease is around $2000.00 you have to pay. Take that into consideration also.

    Plus you need permission to do service from Transam Trucking. If you don't pay their shop to do it, you have a huge nightmare to get it done elsewhere.
    I was with them in the lease for 9 whopping months but I never had any problem getting other shops to work on my truck..hell you are paying for it what the hell do they care... I never let those cowboys touch my truck...I was told early on to never let them even do a pm on the truck as one driver told me after his was done he checked the oil and had to add another gallon to level it off!! Oh yeah..let them mess up your new truck

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    You still haven't figured out the TransAm lease yet have you? NOT A LEASE! It's a rental or actually a SUB LEASE!Not tax deductible either so you are in a loose loose situation! READ THE THING or call OOIDA and ask them! LOLOL

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    Does anyone have a copy of the TransAm "lease" agreement? I'd like to take a look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94nole View Post
    I guess am confused as to why so many get into truck leasing and they expect the company to pay their expenses.

    Leasing is merely an alternative method to get someone, who does not have the ability or desire to purchase a truck outright, into a truck as though it was he or her own equipment.

    Why do people think it is different from leasing a car? You walk into the dealership and have a choice, purchase the vehicle with your own financing or with theirs (which includes a lease option). Once you have signed the paperwork, you don't expect the dealer to provide the maintenance, either routine or unexpected...do you? It's your vehicle, you simply chose to use a different method of financing usually because it requires less out of pocket...both up front and over the lease term.

    Downside...at the end of the lease, you own NOTHING. But over the term of the lease, the maintenance and operating costs belong to YOU!!!!! Not the dealer.

    If you purchased a truck with your own financial/credit-worthy ability to do so, who would you expect to pay the bills of operating the truck?

    Maybe this is a blatant stating of the obvious but it seems to me (as one who is about to embark on driving for a company and who, admittedly, has never driven a mile for hire) that people who want to own a truck would be much better off purchasing the truck and leasing on to a company for authority, freight, etc.

    What am I missing here?

    If you want to be a company driver, one who drives and expects someone else to pay the bills of operating the truck to someone else...then DON'T LEASE A FREAKING TRUCK!!!!! There must be 500+ examples on this board alone as to why leasing a semi is NOT A GOOD DEAL FOR THE LESSEE!!!!

    If you are told the burner is hot and you decide to touch it anyway, it ain't the fault of the person who bought the stove and turned on the burner. The medical costs for treatment of the burns belong to you and you alone UNLESS OTHERWISE stated.
    Because a lot of recruiters sell these shams as "Driving Company only better" - since they provide all the "resources" to run a business. Over simplify the terms and conditions, and count on most people not to read the lease at all ( such as providing all the paperwork to sign on the last day).

    They count on the unsophicated nature of many recuits as not to understand business concepts such as sublease, much less any of the tax issues concerned.

    Using tried and true methods handed down from direct sales, high pressure marketing, "rha rha" rhetoric, shame tactics, etc on people susceptible to pressure marketing. (people really just looking for a job)

    Then the straight-up "hard heads" - of with I've debated here myself, that will defend these scams till the end either because they just can't stand to admit the mess they've gotten themselves in - or they misrepresent themselves as "successful drivers" when in reality they are nothing more than company operatives sneaking around the board.

    Short answer is the lure of "easy money" - the reason why anyone gets taken in by these, timeshares, MLM's or any other kind of scam out there.

    Hopefully more and more can find sites like these, and see the reality of these leases for what they really are.

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    Illinois Attorney

    I have all contracts for Transam Trucking. Lease and also Independant agreements as well as a new CSA 2010 which they forced you to sign stating they can suspend you for 3 days if you get any violation.

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    Think we could get lucky and that the government actually does something and not just talk about it? Nahhhh!!!! Ya gotta know that big bucks are going out just to keep the status quo going!!!!

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    I'm looking to speak with an Illinois resident that has had problems with the TransAm "Lease" Agreement.

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    Illinois. Good luck. I have had the agreement looked over by a few firms for a friend of mine that got eaten alive by Trans-Am (my trainer). As crappy as it is, the agreement is really bulletproof for the company. It is written in language easy enough for a high school graduated to understand AND it even tells the person signing it exactly what happens with money, trucks, ect.

    The problem is people get desperate in Olathe and Rockwall while waiting for trucks and they don't read the thing fully before signing.

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