Roehl begins contracts to work there?!?!?!!

Like Techno said, trainer pay for 10-14 days approx $1000, student pay for same period approx $1000, plus the phase one orientation, and isn't there some sort of sign on bonus? All in all I believe they are fronting the costs of approx 3K, and if that student bails after a month, then they lose. Take that times a few hundred students a year and it adds up.

 

Scott, be careful when you attach my name to an assertion you are making, please. I don't necessarily agree with your numbers.

If the student bails after a month they wouldn't have received the sign-on bonus yet anyway, so it's erroneous to include that as an up-front cost. In the case where orientation is just 1 1/2 days as someone (who is being asked to sign this contract) posted earlier, it would be hard to believe that is costing Roehl $1000. And, the student pay during training is not $1000 either unless they've raised it substantially. That's why I said before that $3130 is rather steep in my opinion. And again, since it's mileage-based, all the risk is on the trainee, with none on Roehl to provide miles. While I can understand why Roehl is doing this, the way they've implemented it here it still would give me pause.

 

If companies want to attract dedicated employees who will stay, they need to structure their recruiting/hiring differently, not make contracts to hold people. Out there is a guy/gal who is working full time in some other industry who wants to drive. To require them to quit their job before even beginning the process of driving makes it a huge risk. Who would quit their job to go to school to maybe be hired? There are plenty of good future employees out there working other jobs. Show those people weekend and night school in their area and you will be hiring people who want to work. As it is companies are predominately scooping the bottom of the barrel by catering to the unemployed and job hoppers from other industries. Roehl should focus on the 50 mile radius of their major terminals and train/advertise to targeted demographics who can pay for training while still holding a job. Maybe then they wouldn't need the contract. At least that's the way it looks from these cheap seats.

 

There is a difference between recruiting quality employees and just filling seats.

 

I wasn't attaching your name to the numbers, but to your point that there's an amount that is paid to the student, and to the trainer for training. Clearly people can see I came up with the numbers not you.

As far as the numbers, my students claim they are getting the sign on bonus in phase 2, so therefore they are receiving the bonus up front. As far as you disagreeing with the 1K student pay, they're paid 10-14 days at a set amount each day (not going to give amounts), which comes out to over 1K in most instances.

 

OK, whatever. From the first quote above, it looked to me like you were claiming I'd said trainer pay and student pay were each approx $1000, which I never said. Not everyone reads the entire thread to review who said what, earlier in the thread. It would have been much more accurate if you'd worded it "Like Techno said, it costs Roehl more to move loads with a student and a trainer than with a driver driving alone. And from my own experience, trainer pay for 10-14 days is approx. $1000 and student pay for the same period is also $1000." See the difference?

The contract that was posted says they don't get advanced the bulk of the signing bonus (2/3) until four months in, which is well after phase 2. That's what I was referring to.

If student pay during training is now over 1K in most instances, then they've raised it substantially (as in, almost doubled) from when I went through it two years ago. If that's true, fair enough.

 

It does cost a little more to move a normal load with a trainer and a student. But there were many times I was "persuaded" to take those in-between 700-750 mile type loads and deliver them in one day. A regular driver can't do it but a trainer and student could. Then they decided to have us just run like one person, like training should be done. But they didn't want to bump up the trainer pay to make up for the lost miles. From the numbers posted it seems like they have increased it to a fair number like I suggested it should be.

 

I think I saw somewhere on their website phase II student training pay was a flat $90.00 a day.

 

I was told the same thing by Roehl. I have a CDL with limited experience and finishing a refresher course locally. They will make you sign a contract and put you on the hook for $3, 130. They call it the "Safety and Jobs Skills Training Program". If you put in 75,000 miles, the debt is clear. If you leave, or they discharge you, they will make you pay the debt, all collection costs plus attorney fees! I read the contract. Also, you are told about this at the last minute when you speak to the follow up person when scheduling orientation. The recruiter does not mention it.

 

There's several good companies that will hire you other than Roehl.
Freymiller
Pride Transport
Navajo Express

There's others also.