I haul fuel and I drive the night shift and to be honest, I wouldn't want to do anything else. I love this job and although there is an inherent risk associated with hauling fuel, I can't see myself doing anything different. When I fist started fuel hauling another driver told me something that I will never forget. "Never become complacent." Those three simple words hold true in this industry. Always be aware of what you are doing. From loading to driving to dropping, you must always be focused on what you are doing and giving it your full attention. I know several drivers in this industry who have been doing this for well over 20 years with no incident. They drive carefully, pay attention to what's going on around them and don't allow themselves to get distracted while performing the job. I agree that 50k isn't worth anyone's life. Heck a million isn't worth a life but risk can be greatly reduced with proper training and attention to detail. It always saddens me to hear of a fuel hauler getting in an accident but to be honest I hear of far more of them making it out of an accident without injury than being killed.
Is your life worth $50K ?
Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Guntoter, Apr 19, 2012.
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I haul fuel and with our company we have 4 drivers to a unit, work 12 hr shifts, usually never more than 4 shifts a week unless someone is on holidays, paid by the hour.....from start to finish......truck never stops 24/7, if dispatched too much work we preload the last load or just kick it back. I feel sorry for the guys on trip rate because everybody will try to finish their day as quick as possible, this leads to drivers making shortcuts. In this business that is what kills.
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You can drive 11 of the 14 but maby thats how its done out there.
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@Down71.
You are right, trucking is not for me. My problem is that being a 3rd generation truck driver and 43 years old, what else am I going to do? It WAS a great vocation when I started 22 years ago.
"you can drive 11 hours a day"? How do you do that when you do 5 or 6 loads a day and spend 30 minutes loading and 30 minutes unloading each one? I rarely travel more than 40 miles each trip. Perhaps you didnt realize you are posting on a thread that was started by a FUEL HAULER.
As far as not idling the truck, my point was not for me (I sleep at home). I was pointing out that drivers cant get ANY sleep in this county because of this stupid law.
I see lots of posts from guys in Indiana, Oklahoma, and other places that dont get HOT. How can any of you know what its like working 14 hours in the middle of the day (thanks UPT for making drivers start at 7:00 A.M.) in Phoenix Arizona. Im out, I have already quit, my complaints are not about my safety they are about working conditions and safety of my friends who do not have the financial wherewithal to hand in their resignation. They are upset and miserable about having a bunch of Oklahomans come here and tell them how to work in these conditions.
How many people in Oklahoma City can comprehend morning rush hour being 4:30 A.M.? Try working in a place that is 125 by noon.pathfinder1361 Thanks this. -
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All that's really beside the point, though. Point is, these college educated office types have no idea what the incessant heat does to us outside. They're all in the office in the A/C. The reality of what we do and what we deal with is nothing more than an abstract concept to them. So, when they take over the company with their narrow minded, shortsighted, and inhumanly callous methodology, you deal with it for as long as you can and then you get the hell out before their stupidity hurts or kill you.pathfinder1361 Thanks this. -
'Is your life worth $50,000'? Well I have met a FEW people in my lifetime who should have to pay 50 Grand a year just for the privilege of being allowed to live..But in answer to your question;Of course not.
This being "taken advantage of" running when tired,blindly following dispatch;etc.etc.-this is a new person's burden entering the Industry,is it not? I mean in my estimation after being out here 2-3 years one should know what's going on,and if need be have the cojones to stand up for themselves.
Trucking is about money and when their is money involved,its going to get complicated. Bottom line is if they are making money with you,you will have some leeway in setting some limits on how you run. If not,get the hell out of there and go somewhere else. THAT isn't complicated. -
And yes Indiana does not get 110 degree but try out 90 with 100% humidity some time.
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Las Vegas is not much different than PHX except for a couple of degrees. I worked mostly days and I know what it's like to stand in the heat. We were still on 4-10 hour days a week and everything after that was time and a half when I left a few years ago. I know that they wanted to change all that and did do some minor changes like kick up the shift hours to 12 but still had three days off. Still the best pay and if my memory serves me right our company there is not union. I still talk to the drivers I worked with and they tell me it's not much different today than before. So I do not know who you are driving for but it sounds like a regional problem.
You know the old saying. When you get scared of what you're hauling it's time to get out. We were never forced to drive anywhere and I know of no drivers that get blackballed for not wanting to work more than their shift. We come to work and our dispatch is already there so not many changes when you're working. Some guys on nightshift never see the boss until the safety meetings. Maybe that's why they like the nightshift so much. But what I have found out it's the dollar an hour more for shift differential that they like the best. I'm, surprised that you feel the way you do.
From what you've told us here I can only draw one conclusion and that's if your area drivers all feel this way they you all need some safety training. I recommend the Charlie Morecraft Story. BTW we've only lost 2 drivers with our company since the 60's that I know of and both of them were in the L.A. area in CA. Both made evasive moves to save others lives and both were burned. Plus each driver had more than 20 years experience. I would never say you do not have what it takes because I don't know you but I do really think you should take a good look at what you are doing and either change or know the product a little better. I just say that because in Las Vegas I know of several rollovers from other companies and no lives were lost. A couple had the truck burn to the ground but you know if no air gets in that tank you'll never have a fire if you've kept the tank proper. I'd like to help in someway but I worked with a major and you know they are either keeping the number of drivers down or closing up all together. I know your area has been talked about for years. You can PM me anytime you like if you need a reference or something out of the regulations I'll do my best to find it. Good luck in whatever you do and you do have the best point of any job, if you feel it's a risk to you then it's time to leave.Svoray, SavageSam and Taildragon Thank this.
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