Here's one for my fellow tanker yankers....whatcha think???

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by chalupa, Jul 2, 2014.

  1. devildoc73

    devildoc73 Bobtail Member

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  3. RAGIN CAJUN

    RAGIN CAJUN Light Load Member

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    U SIR ARE 100% CORRECT
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    I WENT TO A TANKER YANKER COMPANY TO LEASE ON AND THE MANAGER TELLS ME...THEY DONT PAY THE AVERAGE FUEL SURCHARGE FOLLOWE BY THE GOVERNMENT.... SHE PAYS FUEL SURCHARGE ON WHAT THE ABERAGE OF TRUCKS BURN IN HER FLEEET???? U SHOULD OF SEEN THE LOOK ON MY FACE...I WALKED CLEAN OUT DA OFFICE TOLD HER SHE CAN KEEP HER APPLICATION AND HER AVERAGE ....LMAO...U HAVE TO B CAREFUL N PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO SOME OF THESE COMPANYS WHEN LEASING ON....LOL

    Or if my TRUCK AVERAGES
    EXAMPLE IF MY TRUCK AVERAGES 5-6 MPG AND HER FLEET AVERAGES 7-8 WHO MAKES MORE MONEY?
    OR IF MY TRUCK AVERAGES 7-8 MPG AND HER FLEET AVERAGES 5-6?

    THINK ABOUT IT LOL

    I DEFINITELY FEEL YOUR STATEMENT
     
  4. mitchtazz

    mitchtazz Road Train Member

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    Math is obviously none of ya'lls strong point.. no lease operator gets 100% of the load, especially if they're pulling someone else trailer.. if $304 is 100% of the load, how do you expect to receive $304 on a load? FSC will only cover so much, and on a run that short, it's definitely not gonna cover that gap.

    seems like you're getting 75% + fsc on each load.. which is alot better then most of these van guys are getting.
     
  5. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Rookie much? Not only don't you understand the original post, you don't understand the math... Reread what is happening... They are referring to... Company drivers getting percent of load pay versus owner operators getting percent of load pay... When the math is done, the company drivers percentage does not jive with the owner operators pay on the same load. I presented why this may be.... Nobody claimed they were getting 100% ever.
     
  6. mitchtazz

    mitchtazz Road Train Member

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    Ok this is how i understand it..

    There's a run that's handled by company drivers during the week, and by o/o on the weekend.

    Co drivers get $76 per load which is supposedly 25% of the actual revenue made from that load (company keeps the other 75%).

    O/O get roughly $291 per load + FSC.

    So to start we find what the load is actually worth.. Knowing the Co drivers get 25% of the load, we just multiply their pay by 4.
    76*4=304.

    So now we know the load is actually worth $304

    Now if the OP is getting $291 (not including the FSC) where's the issue?
    The O/O are actually getting 95% of the load before FSC WHICH IS REALLY GOOD!!! Especially if they're dragging company wagons.

    At first i though the issue was that the O/O wasn't getting paid enough, but now you agree that no one gets 100% which i hope everyone knew, so what could possibly be the issue?

    UNLESS, the O/O's $291 is after FSC, and lets say they get it on loaded and empty miles @ $0.41mi that'll be $8.20 of FSC on each load which would mean the percent to the O/O would then be 93%...

    Still not seeing an issue.. how about ya'll quit speaking/typing in code and just say what is going on cause either everyone is looking at it from six different angles and believe the other person knows what they're thinking or there's alot of information being left out which is causing me to draw bad conclusions.
     
  7. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Again, go back and reread... O/O gets $291 INCLUDING.. FSC

    Company driver on same load gets $76 * 4 = $304 FSC is treated differently and given fully to the company... Not a company driver.

    So $304-291= $13 ... This is a 20 mile turn So it isn't unreasonable to do 7 to 10 turns in a shift or day.... $91 to $130 loss in revenue per day for the owner O/O.

    What we don't know is the exact FSC... It can be as much as 20% of the worth of the original load... If this is the case... the O/O really getting the shaft.
     
  8. Drumbum

    Drumbum Light Load Member

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    FSC is paid by the mile so if it's a 20 mile load we pretty much know what the FSC would be. The poster you were responding too explained it perfectly

    The pay for the company driver and O/O isn't going to come out exact since as you pointed out the company driver doesn't get the FSC
     
  9. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Not always so.. We can guess at the FSC... I would bet about $35 per load
     
  10. Drumbum

    Drumbum Light Load Member

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    Even if the FSC is that much the O/O would still be getting
    85% of the load plus FSC
     
  11. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Can you walk me though that math?
     
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