CHAINING...are you ready?

Toomanybikes · Sep 5, 2016

otherhalftw said: ↑

What you are referring to was called "Maximum Chains"...for the winter season of 2009-2010, CalDot modified the rule by allowing what is known as "Modified-Max". The difference was that the front drive on the older models was the primary and the rear was secondary. On current models, as was stated, both drives have equal prominence...the rear being actuated by the differential switch....funny, it was the same with the older models.....who'd a thunk(?)!

Even with Max chains required, there was never a requirement for "3 railers" (as you put it "triples"). It was completely acceptable to use two singles on each side of the forward drive. With max or with modified max, one rule does still exist, you cannot stagger the applied chains....or to clarify, forward drive getting outside on the left and inside on the right, and vice versa for the rear drive. Drive axle chains must be applied the same on both sides. The drag chains can be staggered.

Another rule that has remained regarding the number of chains required is that if you use cables, you must follow the "maximum chain" application....front drive inside and out, rear drive outside, and drag chains.
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Just as I was typing my last sentence you prove my point thank you.

otherhalftw · Sep 5, 2016

Toomanybikes said: ↑

Just a discussion.

My point is their is no "main drive axle" like a hear about every year around chain discussion. Those that claim otherwise cannot even get on the same page as to what axle that is.

^^^ Cal Trans hands out those chaining cards each year when they threatening the chain requirement. Over the years I have gotten them they are seldom the same but they often go more in depth the requirements .
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The hand out card hasn't been updated....and they don't plan on wasting the money to update. It still shows the "old method".

STexan · Sep 5, 2016

This PDF from the CalTrans web site seems to indicate that they can require ALL 8 drive tires be chained if they so desire. It was revised January of 2016

http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ChainRequire.pdf

otherhalftw · Sep 5, 2016

STexan said: ↑

This PDF from the CalTrans web site seems to indicate that they can require ALL 8 drive tires be chained if they so desire. It was revised January of 2016

http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ChainRequire.pdf
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Not all 8. If you look close to your pdf example, you will see the arrow pointing to the inside forward axle tires, not the rear drive. If DOT or CHP deem it necessary, they can require the "max chain" configuration...both forward drive tires each side, and outside rear drive.

And if that scenario comes to play....they just shut down the road. How can someone running super singles comply? There is no "inside drive tire".

STexan · Sep 5, 2016

Regarding California. I read "...may require chains on all drive wheels if conditions warrant" off to the side in the "red square" sub-reference text. To me that means all 8 drive wheels on a typical class 8. Are you saying they consider a "dual" as a single drive wheel?

Also here is Washington states "chain info" ...
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/1BE3F4CB-6C4D-48DC-B954-F70CAC5EAA7D/0/ChainRequirements.pdf

otherhalftw · Sep 5, 2016

You're really asking me what they think? Key word here is "think".......need I say more?

Pullin2 · Sep 6, 2016

You all need to reach out to your inner Moose ...... and 'hoof' it when things get bad.

Ok Otter, sorry ..... off topic ..... no more moose jokes in this thread unless with your permission .....

But C'mon, SOMEONE has to make up for 'HeWho's" long absence ........

Big Don · Sep 6, 2016

Pullin2 said: ↑

You all need to reach out to your inner Moose ...... and 'hoof' it when things get bad.

Ok Otter, sorry ..... off topic ..... no more moose jokes in this thread unless with your permission .....

But C'mon, SOMEONE has to make up for 'HeWho's" long absence ........
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So, you are looking for Bullwinkle?

striker · Sep 23, 2016

Well ladies and Germs, the 2016 Golden Chain winner is a three-way tie: Coal Bank, Molass and Red Mountain on US 550 in SW Colorado as of 11:53 am this morning, was lifted about two hours later. The runner up, US 6 Loveland Pass, as of 8:25 pm today, still up, still snowing, expecting a foot plus above 11,000.

Time for all you snowbirds to park it, or hug the Mexican border until May

Rugerfan · Sep 24, 2016

Truckee also saw snow, but don't think any accumulation

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