T680 Antenna setup help

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  1. catalinaflyer

    catalinaflyer Road Train Member

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    So I have a new 2015 KW T680, love the truck but have no use for the stock antenna setup. KW uses the CB antennas for both the CB and the AM/FM radio and the design of the break-away mirrors doesn't lend itself to any sort of grounding. I just installed a new 3 door headache rack last week so my plan is to use a piece of aluminum angle bolted to the top of the box and extending out just enough to get past the fairing on the left side of the tractor. The giant aluminum box should provide a decent ground plane for a Wilson 2000 antenna. Just to stop the debate, I'm not interested in one of those open coil type antennas, I just need to be able to clearly talk and receive my high pole pilot car 2 miles out ahead of me.

    So I'm looking for a recommendation for coax and approximate length to go from the headache rack down under the cab, in through the firewall and back up to the radio in the headliner. There was a time when I could run down to the radio guy and he would cut me the length I need then come out and solder the 259 ends on for me but the explosion of truckstop junk was cutting into his business so he retired to a beach in Mexico. The last time I set up a radio in a truck was 20 years ago in a 379 Pete so this is a whole new animal. I just can't work with this stock setup because I have to keep my high pole car in so close that if she tags something I can't get stopped in time at highway speed.

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  3. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    24 feet of rg158 or rg213 @ 27.205mhz
     
  4. mike5511

    mike5511 Road Train Member

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    Most of the guys are using 27ft on the Freightliner Cascadia.
     
  5. catalinaflyer

    catalinaflyer Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the replies but I chunked the CB in the garbage and installed a dual band VHF/UHF mobile and bought 4 handhelds for my pilots/escorts.
     
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  6. volvo244t

    volvo244t Road Train Member

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    Make a bracket that can bolt into the stock antenna stud location. Run a vertical dipole (eliminating the need for grounding) on said bracket. I've seen this done on T600s and T660s as well.
     
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  7. L.B.

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    that's sad to hear about the 680's antenna issues. I remember the 660s had some of the best stock setups I ever used.
     
  8. Ougigoug

    Ougigoug Heavy Load Member

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    I have use 30FT on similar set up, and i had to use ground strap from headache rack to frame, because my rack was sitting on rubber pieces.

    I was using a predator top at 13.7 and did talk all over the world with that set up.

    Good luck
     
  9. mike5511

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    I checked out the T680 the other night. With the stock antennas the SWR measured 2.6:1 on ch. 19. Flipped down to low 19 (26.735) and it jumped to over 3:1. Installed two 4.5ft Francis antennas. SWR did not significantly change. Installed 5ft SkipShooter on the drivers side and the SWR dropped to 1.6:1 on ch 19. I forget what it dropped to on low 19 but it was a 2.low number:1. It did not make any difference on the passenger side if I used the 4.5ft Francis or the stock antenna in conjunction with the 5ft SkipShooter. I'm thinking two 5ft or longer SkipShooters would be ideal as far as having a good SWR. I'm thinking they would be even better than the 5.5ft Francis antennas because they are top loaded. Anyway, longer is better as far as SWR goes on the KW T680 I checked. (I checked SWR on another truck and it was about the same but I didn't try swapping out the antennas and rechecking.) As far as performance goes. That is a test for another day. I'm not expecting much because of all the splitters in-line on the coax.
     
  10. Xcis

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    Mike5511, when your SWR reading is over 3, that is a dead giveaway that your antenna ground plane is the problem. Sorry, changing antennas is not going to solve the problem. When you have splitters inline, every connection reduces your power going to the antenna which is another problem altogether.
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    .If it were me - personally - I would run just one antenna on the drivers door. I would then skip the original coax entirely and run my own short length of 50 ohm coax. All I need is a couple of feet of coax. Since I absolutely hate with a passion running coax, I would run it through the driver's window and up to the radio. That may look like hell but I do not care. Hey, it is a temporary setup for now.
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    . I would also install another antenna mount and antenna with the antenna pointing toward the ground. That should fix the antenna ground plane problem. It also drives the other drivers crazy because they think that antenna is going to fall off the truck.
     
  11. Ougigoug

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    Mirrors arm powder coated=very bad ground...I had similar issue with T600.
     
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