Thief Hatch... will it kill you in the end ?

Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by Stubby T Slapnutt, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. gdyupgal

    gdyupgal Medium Load Member

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    almost 3 years with Nabors now C&J Conoco finally realized the risks they were incurring by having us climb 32 steps up 32 steps down & reacurring incidents with H2S monitors going off at non H2S wells & even being careful at the hatch when your in the middle of following Conoco procedure meaning Wood back temp 2 thief samples & 1 thief gravity & temp wind directions 25 ft high change rapidly so there's no real escaping fumes or vapers but now we only climb the tanks to switch production or read meter if the Rock is reading correctly...less exposure but still exposed...working here is by far easier for me then when I was in ND so can't complain other then the flip'n spiders & their super industrial webs & snakes accckkkk & this creatured scared the BJesus out me yup 11281528_835347273168857_1372543666_o.jpg 11269965_835347679835483_1980387314_o.jpg
     
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  3. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    we asked for a pressure relief valve the driver could open at the top of the stairs to vent the pressure away from us, before opening the hatch... the pumpers and drillers were all for it, but the EPA said no, that the gas must be trapped, and captured... yet it was okay to release all that gas when we opened the hatch.

    Yep typical government response.
     
  4. Stubby T Slapnutt

    Stubby T Slapnutt Light Load Member

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    Makes no sense, I'd sooner believe Conoco and the others don't want to retrofit all those sites, so they just blame the EPA. If you are going to vent to atmosphere....Why does the driver get gassed?
     
  5. Stubby T Slapnutt

    Stubby T Slapnutt Light Load Member

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    So C&J bought Nabors? Do the trucks say C&J now? I drove 0965, left in May 2014, Whenever I go up 37, I never see the trucks around 72, are ya'll working more over by Cuero?
    Tell that Slacker James Allison, Stubby said Hi.
     
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  6. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    I was at the meeting with the producers, and the EPA, and it was the EPA that would not allow the valve at the top of the stairs to be opened to vent the excess pressure. Anadarko was already building their tank batteries with the valve and pipe stand in place.
     
  7. Stubby T Slapnutt

    Stubby T Slapnutt Light Load Member

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    Yeah not buying that. Here is a link from the EPA http://www.epa.gov/airquality/oilandgas/pdfs/20130805fs.pdfA
    Basically it says there must be a 95% capture rate of VOC [volatile organic compounds] if the well produces more than 6 tons per year.

    Let's assume most wells produce more than 6 tons of VOC per year, now they must comply with the 95% rule. My best guess is EPA understands that some amount of venting, either through leaks or workers testing the crude is unavoidable. So I'll ask the question again " If you are going to vent to atmosphere, why did I get gassed?"
     
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  8. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    You can buy it or not, I was there.
    The EPA rep said, a driver may not close the valve when he leaves, and all the gas will be vented...
    Our answer was, the driver may not close the hatch, also.... still did not sway them.

    Yea, and that have to capture the gas as we load, into the flare stack system, does not work when the flare stack has more pressure. Typical Government regulations, that really do not improve safety, or air quality, just keeps 1,000s of people employed pushing papers around.
     
  9. gdyupgal

    gdyupgal Medium Load Member

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    Nope trucks still say Nabors...we're keeping our same shirts they're just changing out the Nabors patch for a C & J patch....we're still all over we have more leases then when can keep up with so no lay offs as of yet...but things are getting more stricter & by the book so the short cut takers are having to tow the line...most the times James has already left the yard by the time I get in but when I see him I'll tell him
     
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  10. gdyupgal

    gdyupgal Medium Load Member

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    And at what part of this industry have they NEVER talked out of both sides of their mouths...and we have never had clear cut rules as they change their minds as quickly as the wind changes direction..it's a vicious cycle and we the revenue makers for all the pencil pushers will continue to be under THEIR thumbs as long as morgages need to be paid mouths need to be fed so we show up clock in & piss & moan cuz that's our only frustration release
     
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  11. Texasmiss

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    We were doing mostly wells without having to climb tanks. Getting our levels from a screen or a site glass on side of tank and working the oil off the truck and also hooking up a vent line. I was soooo relieved not to be be exposed to fumes anymore.
    They now have me doing alot of old oil leases. So it's back to trying not breathing fumes again. I had not heard the posted story, but have heard over the years of people found dead because of it. A couple of years ago I refused to do two high producing gassy leases. Both of these had contractors pass out. One actually passed out after he got to the lact a few miles away.
    This article is very sad.
    Imo some people detox much better than others so remain unaffected.
     
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