I have my own authority and my dad recently bought his own rig and started driving for me. He found a great setup for 26k but when he went to register it, they charged him the use tax. Unfortunately, I wasn't there with him and this was at one of those private registration places, not a state owned one.
I know you don't have to pay the tax if you have an MC number and you drive interstate. He thought so as well. But the lady told him it had to be HIS MC number, he can't use mine, even though he's leasing on to me and we have a lease agreement already.
He didn't really know any better so he just ended up paying the $2500 or so tax. He wanted to get on the road as soon as possible so he didn't want to waste time driving to other offices to double check.
So I have two questions:
1. Is the tax exemption only good for the MC holder? That doesn't seem right since there are a lot of leased O/Os out there and I've always heard that you don't pay taxes with an MC number. The people at the prorate office where he got his IRP plate didn't think it sounded right but they weren't 100% sure.
2. Is there any way he can get that money back if the lady was wrong and he didn't actually need to pay that tax? Maybe when he files his state taxes? If it's lost, it's not a big deal, but if he can somehow get it back, it would be nice little bonus
Use/Sales tax while leasing onto a company? WA state
Discussion in 'Trucker Taxes and Truck Financing' started by dlstruck, Sep 8, 2016.
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Now, if you or he is a Washington state resident, there is no state income tax. Only taxes filed in Washington state is business taxes and sales tax.
FYI: if you do any intrastate state loads in WA, there is like 3 different taxes you'll have to pay on the gross revenue of that load. B&O, UTC, and I can't remember the other one, but you can find it in the business tax guide on the department of revenue website for trucking specific guides.
Edit: here's the dor trucking specific guide http://dor.wa.gov/Content/DoingBusiness/BusinessTypes/Industry/Truck/default.aspx -
Yeah I was able to confirm that he was charged those taxes incorrectly. Looks like he's going to have to claim them as on overpayment when he files his state taxes.
Are you in WA? If so, can you recommend a good tax guy who knows the truck laws? This is my first year with my own authority and the CPA I've used in the past for my personal taxes doesn't seem to know much about trucker taxes. I tried to google it but can't seem to find anyone based in WA. -
I know from a friend of mine, that the profit gauges system from Kevin Rutherford uses a Cpa in Washington state. I just don't feel like paying them I think $100/month to do everything for me.
I've been doing my own and use an accounting system to track everything. Plus, the software does invoices and make it easy to track stuff like when a broker is 60 days overdue. Only had that once, but after one phone call and forwarding the email with the original pod and invoice, I had the check within 4 days.
If you have any questions, I'll try and help. For the most part, Washington state is very easy. All interstate revenue is tax exempt for the state taxes, it's only your intrastate loads you need to pay taxes on. -
It all depends. There are a couple states that have not signed onto the agreement waiving sales tax. My state did this in 2003.
You don't need a tax person or an accountant, you need to a talk to your state people and get it straight.
Oh and the interstate and intrastate revenue has nothing to do with registration, this is taxed the same no matter what - it is revenue. -
Here is directly from Washington state department of revenue
Public Utility Tax (PUT)
Persons operating motor driven vehicles used in transporting persons or property on a for hire basis are subject to the Public Utility Tax. The transportation of persons or property across state boundaries, into and out of Washington, via “through freight billing,” or shipments to ports for export, are allowed deductions for interstate transportation.
Business and Occupation (B&O) Tax
Many trucking industry businesses located in Washington are subject to the state B&O tax. This includes corporations, limited liability companies, partnerships, and sole proprietors. The B&O tax is a gross receipts tax on the business. It is measured on the value of products, gross proceeds of sale, or gross income of the business. There are no deductions from the B&O tax for labor, materials, taxes, or other costs of doing business. Trucking related businesses generally report income under the retailing, retailing of Interstate Transportation Equipment, wholesaling, and service and other activities B&O tax classifications. -
Well thanks for the clarification but it raises the question of the sales/use tax that is applied to the transfer of the truck to the new owner, is it based on the revenue or projected revenue going forward at that time or is it a flat percentage of the purchase price?
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KriegHund Thanks this.
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