Walmart Detention

Does anyone know the facts about where Walmart will actually pay a carrier detention? I.e 3 hours? 4 hours? past the appointment time. And what sort of BS do they use to get out of it?

I'm not talking about detention agreement between the carrier and driver, I'm inquiring about the detention agreement(s) between shipper/carrier and Walmart

 

It seems like 4 hours is some sort of threshold for them. The last 3 full loads I've taken into Walmart, I get the call at somewhere between 3.5 and 4 hours past the appointment time.

Drivers and carriers can not always be expected to go in with 5 hours remaining on their 14. That's too often simply not possible especially with multiple drop Walmart loads where each and every one will halt the truck for 3-4 hours (more if you count early arrival which you MUST) and threaten HOS violation trying to get somewhere safe to park well after dark, often in Bumfuk nowhere.

Walmart may be the fly in the ointment that pushes me back out of refrigerated trucking. I can tolerate a lot if BS but a month with 3 or 4 Walmart loads is a miserable and stressful month that pays crap by severely hampering any productivity capability.

 

That's all well and good I suppose but how exactly does one "screw them"? Some sort of carrier consortium needs to tell Walmart how things need to change. If carriers are billing in long waits (doubt it) then they need to start passing much of that on to the drivers in the form of accessorial pay.

I understand Walmart is a "big customer" but they're not so big they can dump on every carrier who delivers their groceries that drive half their sales.

 

And the thing about Walmart is even small drops with maybe 6-10 pallets takes a minimum of 2.5 hours.

And I trash unions, but generally union lumpers don't mess around when compared to Walmart workers. And furthermore, you won't see any workers of "Latin Heritage" lumping trailers at Walmart. We can complain about the flood of illegals, but the fact is, they work twice as hard and twice as fast as the typical "slow-### white kid" working through college.

But I think the receiving clerk and office is as big a delay problem as the physical unloading process.