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    manditory 30 minute break goes into effect july 1st 2013 ...or so im told

    Just when you thought the dot hacked up your log sheets too much? Here comes another puzzle to solve....





    Starting July 1, 2013, you’ll also need to factor in a mandatory 30-minute rest break into the equation when you’ve reached eight consecutive hours of On-Duty.
    When that rule takes effect, you’ll only be able to drive if you’ve taken a minimum 30-minute rest period in the previous eight hours.

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    funny you mention that...i was just looking it up

    Petitions for Reconsideration and Replies (PDF)

    Summary of Hours-of-Service (HOS) Regulations as of July 2013
    The table below [Download PDF Version] summarizes the changes compared to current rule.
    PROVISION PRIOR RULE FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE JULY 1, 2013
    Limitations on minimum "34-hour restarts" None (1) Must include two periods from 1 a.m. to 5 a.m., home terminal time.
    (2) May only be used once per week, 168 hours, measured from the beginning of the previous restart.
    Rest breaks None except as limited by other rule provisions. May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver’s last off-duty or sleeper berth period of at least 30 minutes. [49 CFR 397.5 mandatory “in attendance” time for hazardous materials may be included in break if no other duties performed]
    PROVISION PRIOR RULE FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE FEBRUARY 27, 2012
    On-duty time Includes any time in CMV except sleeper berth. Does not include any time resting in a parked vehicle (also applies to passengercarrying drivers). In a moving property-carrying CMV, does not include up to 2 hours in passenger seat immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in sleeper berth.
    Penalties “Egregious” hours-of-service violations not specifically defined. Driving (or allowing a driver to drive) more than 3 hours beyond the driving-time limit may be considered an “egregious” violation and subject to the maximum civil penalties. Also applies to passenger-carrying drivers.
    Oilfield exemption “Waiting time” for certain drivers at oilfields (which is off-duty but does extend 14-hour duty period) must be recorded and available to FMCSA, but no method or details are specified for the recordkeeping. “Waiting time” for certain drivers at oilfields must be shown on logbook or electronic equivalent as off duty and identified by annotations in “remarks” or a separate line added to “grid.”

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    Im trying to get in the habit now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles the Original View Post
    funny you mention that...i was just looking it up

    Petitions for Reconsideration and Replies (PDF)

    Summary of Hours-of-Service (HOS) Regulations as of July 2013
    The table below [Download PDF Version] summarizes the changes compared to current rule.
    PROVISION PRIOR RULE FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE JULY 1, 2013
    Limitations on minimum "34-hour restarts" None (1) Must include two periods from 1 a.m. to 5 a.m., home terminal time.
    (2) May only be used once per week, 168 hours, measured from the beginning of the previous restart.
    Rest breaks None except as limited by other rule provisions. May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver’s last off-duty or sleeper berth period of at least 30 minutes. [49 CFR 397.5 mandatory “in attendance” time for hazardous materials may be included in break if no other duties performed]
    PROVISION PRIOR RULE FINAL RULE - COMPLIANCE DATE FEBRUARY 27, 2012
    On-duty time Includes any time in CMV except sleeper berth. Does not include any time resting in a parked vehicle (also applies to passengercarrying drivers). In a moving property-carrying CMV, does not include up to 2 hours in passenger seat immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in sleeper berth.
    Penalties “Egregious” hours-of-service violations not specifically defined. Driving (or allowing a driver to drive) more than 3 hours beyond the driving-time limit may be considered an “egregious” violation and subject to the maximum civil penalties. Also applies to passenger-carrying drivers.
    Oilfield exemption “Waiting time” for certain drivers at oilfields (which is off-duty but does extend 14-hour duty period) must be recorded and available to FMCSA, but no method or details are specified for the recordkeeping. “Waiting time” for certain drivers at oilfields must be shown on logbook or electronic equivalent as off duty and identified by annotations in “remarks” or a separate line added to “grid.”
    Now you did it . You're going to start a fresh bunch of complaints from drivers that want to know why they can't do a restart away from their home terminal .

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    Seriously now for many of you is this 30 minute brake going to affect your hrs?Alot of you are sitting waiting for loads,there is you 30 minute brk.Also add 30 minutes while waiting in the dock.You can make this work without a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattyj View Post
    Seriously now for many of you is this 30 minute brake going to affect your hrs?Alot of you are sitting waiting for loads,there is you 30 minute brk.Also add 30 minutes while waiting in the dock.You can make this work without a problem.
    I think it's more of them forcing it. For us night drivers it will be a bit of a problem but I will just find an independent and sit on their fuel island. I think it's stupid and unnecessary but no it shouldn't be that hard. Now the 0100-0500 restart provision is a also a slap in the face. How the heck do they know I sleep better then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattyj View Post
    Seriously now for many of you is this 30 minute brake going to affect your hrs?Alot of you are sitting waiting for loads,there is you 30 minute brk.Also add 30 minutes while waiting in the dock.You can make this work without a problem.
    The problem with that is if you take the break before you have 6 hours on duty you'll have to take another before your 14 is up .

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    We just recently switched over to AOBR's on all of our trucks, it looks like the system will "adjust,update" on July 1st. It will start a second countdown clock after you start your day as to how much time you have before you HAVE to put your 30 minute stop in.

    Between this 30 minute break and no more than one reset, I am glad that we went the electronic log route, no offense, but the truth is, none of my guys are math majors, and I could see that with no second reset and having to roll hours where it could get very easy to make a mistake, or add wrong.

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    I take a half hour a day already. I am a human, and i am not working like a illegal immigrant for nobody

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattyj View Post
    Seriously now for many of you is this 30 minute brake going to affect your hrs?Alot of you are sitting waiting for loads,there is you 30 minute brk.Also add 30 minutes while waiting in the dock.You can make this work without a problem.
    Waiting in the dock must be logged on line 4.


    Hours of service of drivers

    § 395.2 Definitions.

    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

    ...

    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

    ...
    For reference:


    Question 2: What conditions must be met for a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) driver to record meal and other routine stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time?


    Guidance:

    1. The driver must have been relieved of all duty and responsibility for the care and custody of the vehicle, its accessories, and any cargo or passengers it may be carrying.


    2. The duration of the driver’s relief from duty must be a finite period of time which is of sufficient duration to ensure that the accumulated fatigue resulting from operating a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) will be significantly reduced.


    3. If the driver has been relieved from duty, as noted in (1) above, the duration of the relief from duty must have been made known to the driver prior to the driver’s departure in written instructions from the employer. There are no record retention requirements for these instructions on board a vehicle or at a motor carrier’s principal place of business.


    4. During the stop, and for the duration of the stop, the driver must be at liberty to pursue activities of his/her own choosing and to leave the premises where the vehicle is situated.

    All 4 of the conditions need to be met in order to log on line 1 after beginning your work day. Take particular note of item number 3.

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