Owners !!!!! DO NOT Take loads from NJ, NY, MA, ....

**vadim2200** · 04.14.2011

I am so frustrated about the load rates from East that are going West. What the hell is this..... ex(I live in Cleveland, OH its 460 mi form NJ) Those blood sucking brokers still offer around $500 and 43,000lb. When the gas was $2.00 they had these same rates as they do now when gas is $4.00. I beg all of you owners DO NOT take those loads. For about 2 years i am not taking no loads back and i hope you do the same. IF WE ALL UNITE THEY WILL GIVE US DOUBLE!!! Don't be afraid to refuse the load, i know its hard right now. WE are the DRIVERS!! WE Suppose to Control those greedy brokers. I know for a fact that companies pay $800-$900. And those F...... are making $300 in a day and doing nothing, while we do most of the work.

**Yup** · 04.15.2011

I dont run up there,therefore I cant get loads out.
Let them run naked and go hungry for all I care.

**G/MAN** · 04.15.2011

I have actually gotten a good rate out of MA and NJ the last couple of times. I pulled one out of NJ for $2.41/mile last time. that is not the norm. I usually don't even bother. I just plan on deadheading over into PA. I will deadhead before putting anything on the truck that isn't profitable. I make a point of getting enough going in where I can afford to deadhead. One thing to remember is that the only reason rates are that cheap is because there are those who haul for those rates. And it isn't just in the states you mentioned.

**112racing** · 04.15.2011

lots of loads are delivered to these states with few loads being shipped out .....when you have 5-6 trucks for every load available = low rates......i know local guys bringing shrubs up from knoxville tn area ....loads going south from pa are listed for around $1.10 a mile so they just get a local load from allentown area to carlisle or shippensburg pa that pay $6-700 which pays the fuel and a little xtra rather than drag 48000 lbs all the way to tn for 800 and deadhead the rest of the way cause they are getting $23-2600 from tn back up depending where they go to

**zentrucking** · 04.17.2011

Lots of cut throat -day cabs running those day hauls up there, too much capacity for things to change.

**runningman0661** · 04.17.2011

It's all supply and demand in the North East. I will take a good paying load up there knowing that I will most likely have to bounce back to Pa. to get a decent paying load.

**G/MAN** · 04.18.2011

Originally Posted by runningman0661

It's all supply and demand in the North East. I will take a good paying load up there knowing that I will most likely have to bounce back to Pa. to get a decent paying load.

I usually plan on at least a 300 mile deadhead when I take a load to the Northeast or to New England. I see no need to waste a lot of time waiting for a decent paying load. There are too many who are willing to haul for fuel money hauling out of that area. I would rather buy a little fuel to get to a better area than haul something for free.

**runningman0661** · 04.19.2011

Originally Posted by G/MAN

I usually plan on at least a 300 mile deadhead when I take a load to the Northeast or to New England. I see no need to waste a lot of time waiting for a decent paying load. There are too many who are willing to haul for fuel money hauling out of that area. I would rather buy a little fuel to get to a better area than haul something for free.

Amen brother! I love the driver that waits up there for the "perfect " load that will never appear, and after waiting for 2 days either takes the cheap load anyway, or dheads out after all. Go in there with the mindset that if no good paying loads are available bounce the hell out of there.

**blueskies** · 04.20.2011

The rates in the NW are no easier for a Reefer. Nursery loads are just starting to move; these usually start in Feb, but it's been too cold. I can get a rate I'm happy with, but it takes 50 calls with these idiot brokers and these discount drivers(Where do they come from??).

**G/MAN** · 04.21.2011

It seems to me that every time we have a down turn in the economy we get rid of a lot of the cheap freight haulers only to have a new group of bottom feeders to take their place. It is a shame there are so many people who don't know how to run a business. They think the only way to generate business or get freight is with a cheap rate. They would rather go broke than get a good rate. They will take a load for the cheapest rate rather than sit or deadhead.