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Why the DOT is pushing for tougher regulations on CMV drivers

Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by DustyRoad, Jul 18, 2014.

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  1. Jul 18, 2014 #1
    DustyRoad

    DustyRoad Road Train Member

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    FMCSA Crash Data last 24 months....Random Sampling

    Swift 45 fatalities with 17,000 power units

    JB Hunt 27 Fatalities with 12,000 plus power units

    Fed Ex 29 Fatalities with 39,000 power units

    UPS Ground 11 Fatalities with 6800 power units.

    http://safer.fmcsa.dot.gov/CompanySnapshot.aspx



    Truck crashs resulting in fataliies is Big Business for Lawyers, the average economic impact per occurance is over 1.4 million USD per occurance.
    [TABLE="width: 918"]
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    [TD="colspan: 4"]People Table 1. Persons Killed and Injured in Crashes Involving Large Trucks, 2011[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Person Type[/TD]
    [TD="colspan: 2"]Single-Vehicle Crashes[/TD]
    [TD="colspan: 2"]Multiple-Vehicle Crashes[/TD]
    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Total[/TD]
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    [TR]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]Num[/TD]
    [TD]%[/TD]
    [TD]Num[/TD]
    [TD]%[/TD]
    [TD]Num [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="colspan: 7"]Persons Killed[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Driver of Large Truck[/TD]
    [TD]345[/TD]
    [TD]47.3%[/TD]
    [TD]202[/TD]
    [TD]6.7%[/TD]
    [TD]547[/TD]
    [TD]14.6%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Driver of Other Motor Vehicle[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD]2,063[/TD]
    [TD]68.2%[/TD]
    [TD]2,063[/TD]
    [TD]54.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Passenger of Large Truck in Transport[/TD]
    [TD]57[/TD]
    [TD]7.8%[/TD]
    [TD]30[/TD]
    [TD]1.0%[/TD]
    [TD]87[/TD]
    [TD]2.3%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Passenger of Other Motor Vehicle in Transport[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD]631[/TD]
    [TD]20.8%[/TD]
    [TD]631[/TD]
    [TD]16.8%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Occupant of Motor Vehicle Not in Transport[/TD]
    [TD]7[/TD]
    [TD]1.0%[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0.1%[/TD]
    [TD]9[/TD]
    [TD]0.2%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Occupant of Non-Motor Vehicle Transport Device**[/TD]
    [TD]11[/TD]
    [TD]1.5%[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD]11[/TD]
    [TD]0.3%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Pedestrian[/TD]
    [TD]238[/TD]
    [TD]32.6%[/TD]
    [TD]96[/TD]
    [TD]3.2%[/TD]
    [TD]334[/TD]
    [TD]8.9%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Bicyclist[/TD]
    [TD]59[/TD]
    [TD]8.1%[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]*[/TD]
    [TD]60[/TD]
    [TD]1.6%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Other Cyclist[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0%[/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD]0.0%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Other Person on Personal Conveyance/In Building[/TD]
    [TD]12[/TD]
    [TD]1.6%[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]*[/TD]
    [TD]13[/TD]
    [TD]0.3%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Unknown Occupant Type in Motor Vehicle in Transport[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]0.1%[/TD]
    [TD]1[/TD]
    [TD]*[/TD]
    [TD]2[/TD]
    [TD]0.1%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Total[/TD]
    [TD]730[/TD]
    [TD]100.0%[/TD]
    [TD]3,027[/TD]
    [TD]100.0%[/TD]
    [TD]3,757[/TD]
    [TD]100.0%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov



    Average Economic Cost per Death, Injury, or Crash, 2012

    • Death $1,410,000
    http://www.nsc.org/news_resources/i...stimatingtheCostsofUnintentionalInjuries.aspx


    The estimate cost to the trucking industry alone is approx $ 5,297,370,000 (5.3 Billion dollars a year) and this does not include accident with injuries...
     
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  3. Jul 19, 2014 #2
    Simpledriver

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    Motorcycle and RV's have to be separate columns. Since they are the most dangerous ones.
     
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  4. Jul 19, 2014 #3
    joseph1135

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    The funny thing is that those are large carriers with "excellent safety ratings", while the company I work for has not had a fatality accident in years (the last two were the drivers themselves in one truck accidents due to health) and we have a higher unsafe rating. But then you have to look at the numbers. They have more trucks, more drivers. More chances for accidents/incidents.
     
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  5. Jul 19, 2014 #4
    Air Breeze

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    That's why the ATA is all for the PSP point system. It makes the larger companies
    appear safer than they really are. It unfairly punishes the smaller carriers with the
    flawed system the FMCSA uses to predict crash probability.
     
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  7. Jul 19, 2014 #5
    DustyRoad

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    If you consider the survival of the fittest. Big Companies have more resouces, power and money....they can pay off victims of crashes. Whereas , the independent owner operator can't sustain a million dollars in punitve damages. This is why a independent study by a third party (IOODA) must be able to represent Independent Drivers and hold accountable the FMCSA, DOT, FHA and the Congressal Acts that keep protecting the large carrier (ATA Members) as lobbyist continue to manipulate both Federal and State Legislation to benefit the corporations and not the drivers.

    More Laws = Less Liberty!
     
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  8. Jul 19, 2014 #6
    Emulsified

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    To address your question: Politics.
    Our elected officials don't want to handle those nasty questions surrounding spending, taxing, border security, illegals and such, so they try and score big with the populace by going after a group that the public comes in contact with every day...trucks...and over regulate them so they can be reelected.
    "See! I made you safer!"
     
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  9. Jul 19, 2014 #7
    Studebaker Hawk

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    Interpreting the raw data and coming to opposite conclusions, depending on your agenda is what plays out in Washington DC. It has nothing to do with safety.
    Example, if you want to look at some of those numbers fairly, fatalities per million miles driven would be much more meaningful than fleet size.
     
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  10. Jul 20, 2014 #8
    SHO-TYME

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    My question regarding the survey above would be, how many are the FAULT of the truck?
     
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  11. Jul 20, 2014 #9
    DustyRoad

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    I think we know the answer to that already.

    We are the big bad wolf and they are scared little bunnies...

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. Jul 20, 2014 #10
    gpsman

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    That's... kind of a nirvana fallacy. Groups of statistics tell their own tales. None taken separately can be considered definitive, and combining them... there's so many they lead to confusion.

    For example, all crashes per VMT (Vehicle Miles Traveled) would be more meaningful than crashes that involve a fatality. Fatalities are just an easy way to count, and count the worst results... (if you agree permanent and debilitating injuries are not often a fate worse than death considering their widespread and significant effects to families).

    The thing about trucks is, their crashes with other vehicles so often involve fatalities, and they more often involve 2 other vehicles rather than just 1.

    The thing about truck drivers seems to be they cannot be convinced their conduct behind the wheel is not invisible to the general public, and LE, and Congresspersons traveling the roadways.

    There seems to be a tendency for truck drivers to believe everyone involved in traffic safety is beamed to and fro and does not witness 5 days per week and twice per day the ubiquitous gross negligence the typical truck driver exhibits the vast majority of the time.

    If you're trying to not be involved in a crash, the difference in your driving is obvious, and vice versa.
     
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