Attempted suicide by truck....

Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by n3ss, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    A pilot crashed a plane with 150 people on board, but in that case it seems many want to assign more blame to the carrier then to the individual. If a person who is dealing with severe depression wants to (needs to) avoid detection in a simple interview or "test", they can/will do so.

    Everybody has spells of depression at times in their lives. No doubt you have too. Should we have "locked you up"?
     
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  3. AfterShock

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    A clear mind?
    I'm thinkin' clearly not.

    Depression sure ain't a pretty picture.
    I wouldn't even wish that on my best enemy.


    Well stated truisms.

    Sometimes, maybe even most of the time, that's the situation, ---
    But I wonder if there are circumstantial exceptions.
    Add, have your affairs in order with important documents
    and other paperwork, insurance, bank accounts, addresses for those to be
    notified, organized and located in a convenient location, --- before their
    final offing, --- and I'd vote for it.

    But, I wonder if common decency is uppermost in their malfunctioning mind,
    at that particular moment when perspectives are out of focus and severely
    misconstrued


    Interesting.
    You have my attention.


    Do you believe they have a desire or the intent of inflicting
    harm on another or others? When in that state of mind, rational thinking
    and logic run outta hours and the whole reasoning system shuts down,
    where and when ever such an event happens. Selfish of them?
    Logical reasoning would probably lean that way.

    "There's no reason to make others suffer".
    Are you absolutely sure you believe that?
    Would that include those who attempted to end their life
    in an unacceptable manner?
    "There's no reason to make others suffer."
    (Or add more than they already are? Or not?)
    I'd agree.
    There's no (good) reason.


    That's another way to look at it.
    WoaH!!
    Hold on thar!
    "Murder"?! (her)
    You think the Big truck truck driver who collided with this lady
    could/should be considered a murderer? He purposely rammed
    his Big truck into this lady in an SUV, sitting on an off ramp, ---
    facing traffic, --- who drove head-on toward said Big truck and
    driver of same, ..... rollin' along at highway speed, to wit this lady
    in the SUV admits to wantin' to kill herself to death, choosing the
    front end of a Big truck as her weapon of choice?

    Ya never know, --- he might be convicted by a jury of his peers.......
    I kinda doubt it though, ......... Unless........
    the trial is transferred to Los Angeles.
    A lotta things don't make sense in LA
    Probably receive re-hab, --- with an ankle bracelet.
    (Ball & Chain optional)
    Sympathy for her family?
    Anybody acquainted with her family?
    For all we know it may have been her family that drove her
    to take that drive the wrong way, --- once, ..... too often.
    Would the, "no sympathy" status also include a driver
    who suffers a near-fatal heart attack, blacks out, runs
    head-on into a Big truck, flippin' 'er over, --- and only
    the driver who suffered the near-fatal heart attack
    was injured, --- critically?
    How 'bout a stroke?
    No sympathy?

    "Devastating".
    Indeed.
    A pity, too.
    Sad.


    I think I can speak for most others when I say, believe me when I tell you
    that I really, seriously want to tell you that "this stuff" is all Big truck trucker tales
    passed 'round over coffee (10th cup, -- 64 ounce), waitin' on the waitress to
    bring their biscuits in country gravy that drips.
    Imagine where.
    Unfortunately, this stuff really does happen --- waayyy more often than many
    are aware of.

    When I first started drivin' Big trucks OTR, it took awhile to get used to
    seein' two things, --- Big crashes, vicious, violent, deadly, --- often
    involving multiple vehicles, sometimes Big trucks. Assisted as first
    on-scene till real help arrived. Seemed like hours --- always. In reality,
    10 --> 15 minutes. I handle that reasonably well, but after it's over
    I shake like a leaf for quite a while. Returnin' to reality does that.

    And seein' road-kill scattered along the highways. However, I
    didn't stop to render aid to the critters. "Cept when Bambi ran
    in front of the T-600. Tried for a glancing hit, almost did. Felt bad
    about not avoiding the unavoidable. Hold my course and brace for
    the impact, hopin' the carcass doesn't wedge under the front axle.
    No steerin' complicates things.
    But, ....... I digress.


    YeaH!!
    Why dae do dat?
     
  4. OceanDan

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    Depression????? She needs counseling??? Those are jokes right???

    The SUV driver should be tried and CLEARLY convicted of attempted murder in the first degree. Her comments and the video prove beyond any reasonable or even hallucinated doubt it was premeditated.

    This is a microcosm of the sickness rotting away our society. Commit a clear act of criminal intent and blame it on being suicidal. This woman wasn't/isn't suicidal, she's homicidal and should face severe, swift and permanent repercussions.
     
  5. pattyj

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    In this case yes lock her up till she gets well.Should we chance it happening again?Like I said her condition didn't just happen over night somebody should have took action long ago.You tell me what should be done.At least with this case nobody got killed but this is a very clear sign this lady needs help and should be put away till she is 100%well and then be on a 24 hr watch for awhile.With the pilot he hid his condition and by that time it was too late but with this lady its not too late.
     
  6. pattyj

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    Heck if she doesn't get locked up while getting the help next time she could succeed.We ca'nt chance her getting up in the middle of the night killing herself and and anyone in her path.
     
  7. STexan

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    The pilot DID NOT hide his condition. Which is the entire story behind the story. Doctors and others knew which brings me back to my point. There are many different levels of depression and not all lead to suicide attempts and it's hard to know which ones might and might not. 100% well? Who is in 100% perfect "mental health"? And who can be "fixed" to 100% mental health? If we take your idea and apply it, we will need to buy Canada, kick everybody out, then ready to make enough to room to have all with depression issues "put away" for the rest of their lives.

    Who is going to decide what "proper mental health" is and what will be the tests and conditions to be met in order to be deemed "mentally healthy"? Plenty of medical professionals take their lives too, so this leads me to think perhaps mental health is very subjective and hardly a given as a general rule.

    IMO, a person who throws trash and pee bottles out a window has mental issues. Can I have them committed if I can capture them on video as proof? Or do I not have the correct academic pedigree to make this determination?
     
  8. pattyj

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    I heard doctors excused the pilot from flying when he was going to school to get his license and he hid that so he had depression for yrs..Anyway not everyone who is depressed should be locked up but the suicidal ones should be.People like this lady should not be allowed to roam our streets.Unless she gets help it will happen again and with a far worse ending.This type of depression is not moderate but very high.There's a difference between everyday depression and what this lady has.Sure we all get depressed and don't know why it just happens
     
  9. AfterShock

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    Your pedigree is impeccable, --- commence the commitment. :salute:
    Video capture isn't necessary, neither is a still image. A simple
    pencil sketch is perfectly fine. Catch 'em chuckin' jugs red-handed
    and claim seein' that caused you to fear for your life. Then proceed
    to openin' up an industrial size, professional strength, Can-0-Whup
    on 'em by administerin' a series of swift kicks to th
    eir buttox, ---
    each one bein' more severe than it's predecessor.
    :smt100
    If necessary, introduce Mr. Fist to Mr. Face. :smt062

    Maybe then they'll better understand what's meant when they
    hear or read, DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS.
    :smt104
    Ya reckon. :smt047
     
  10. G.Anthony

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    I say screw the SUV driver. Now that truck driver will have an accident on his record, for what, some whack job? Screw her and whatever she claims to be her problems. I hope she get's charged with attempted murder as well. Let her live with her problems for several years in the state college.

    What a whack job
     
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  11. tinytim

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    When people take something seriously and it upsets them it's common to react that way. If people didn't give a crap about this issue they wouldn't be making those type of comments. This topic doesn't even get the usual jokes or dark humour less serious issues do.

    Was Dahmer's intent to hurt others? Usually when someone does something bad that hurts others they're not 'in their right mind' and their intention may not be to hurt others. That doesn't make it OK.
     
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