34 Hour Restart
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Jun 4, 2007.
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No you do't sound silly first of all. The thing here is you don't HAVE to take a 34 hour restart. You can run off the hours you gain every night a midnight. The hours of your first of your last 7 days.
So 7 days ago I worked 10.5 hours, then tonight @ midnight I will have for sure 10 hours to work. With regional you might get 1 1/2 days off every week, if you don't and you work steadily only 9-10 hours a day you will always have hours available and can work 365 days a year.
Now OTR drivers I suggest you use your hours if there is freight, run legal and use them up; take a 34 hour and go at it again .
Does this help any? You don't have to take a 34 hour break and no they don't have to fly you home, you can be in a hotel, friends etc. U just need 34 hours off of sleeper/off duty combination or 34 hours off duty.
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Thanks for the compliment.
I do like to hear others opinions so everyeone feel free to help explain this as sometimes i have a tough time -
Ok let me see if I got this right...I stole this from the FMCSA website:
Property-Carrying CMV drivers may not drive:
- More than 11 hours, following 10 hours off-duty.
- Beyond the 14th hour after coming on-duty, following 10 hours off-duty.
- After 60/70 hours on-duty in 7/8 consecutive days. - A driver may restart a 7/8 consecutive day period after taking 34 or more consecutive hours off duty
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Lets try this: Today is the 20th; below would be my re-cap
13th) 10.75
14th) 9.00
15th) 10.50
16th) 8.75
17th) 10.50
18th) 10.00
19th) 5.00
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Total for last 7 days is 64.5
Take 70 minus 64.5= 5.5 hours
That means you have 5.5 hours available to work on the 20th (today). Now the lines 3 and 4 can not total more than 5.5 hours. Now at 12:00 am (the 21st) you will have @ least 10.75 hours to work. You are running low on hours today, but at 12:00 am you will have hours to run. I did not do a 34 hour restart though.
Or you could not use the 5.5 hours today and sit and do a restart. But if there is freight and you can get 5.5 hours down the road and sit until 12:00 am then why not keep it rolling??? See in the above example every night at midnight I will be gaining some pretty decent hours.
Now if I had a 1 or 2 on line 1 then I would probably say i need a restart.
Rememember every day you are starting is your 8th day (you are always going back 7 to find out how many hours you have available to work).
That's based on the company you are going to work for is running 7 days a week. now if they shut down for 1 day, you will on the 60hr/7 day recap. I assume it would work the same as the 8 day recap although you wuld only be going back 6 days. Not sure, but I would say that's true.
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LogsRus posted a good explanation. Yes, the 60/7 recap works the same way. 60/7 drivers have practically as many hours to work as 70/8 drivers.
The questions about load planning leads to a discussion of the driver turn-over problem in the irregular route truck-load industry. Turn-over rates of 127% have been experienced by some companies. Drivers work less than a year before finding another company that promises less layover, more home time, less frustration and better equipment.
Companies try to plan their loads and backhauls to operate their fleet efficiently and reduce driver turn-over. However, this is a service industry. The truckers do not create freight. It is a highly competitive industry affected by the economy, the weather, customer schedules, etc. If anything goes wrong with the load plan, the driver is impacted first.
In theory, larger companies are able to plan their loads, customers, and freight lanes more efficiently. The trend of buyouts and mergers continues as economists say that we need truckload carriers even larger than Schneider and JB Hunt. Irregular route drivers will always need to plan their activities within the hours of service of regulations. Often, they have a choice of loads so that backhauls and home time are more their responsibility than the company's. -
Well since I've been stuck at home for 20+ years, I'm looking forward to those 34 hour restarts. I plan on catching a cab to someplace to do something. I'll figure that out as I go. I've never been able to bowl so that's one thing I'll do. I'll find bowling alley's all over the country, buy my own shoes and ball and just enjoy playing against no one in particular.
When my daughter is with me we'll go bowling together, look for a swimming pool and occasionally we'll check into a nice hotel just for the fun of it.
My mother thinks I should take the opportunity to develop some writing skills. I've always thought about it but never had the time without so many interuptions.
I think if more drivers were creative with that time they would be less stressed and frustrated with their jobs.
Suzi -
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It's really true that stress will kill ya. But it will kill others too! There are days when I want to hurt some little ankle biter. I HAVE to bite the inside of my cheeks, walk away and breathe.
It's all about priorities. Rest, relaxation and personal time IS a priority at least some of the time. Or at least it should be.
I think this is why entertainment seems to be so important in todays world.
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I know a driver that drives around in Chicago everyday....has to take pills every 3-4hrs just to make it through the day.
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