Time and 1/2 for truckers

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by orangepicker, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. mattbnr

    mattbnr Road Train Member

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    Well #### I wanna drive for you! Where you out of? Sounds like the perfect job. But my question is how many miles do they have to run to make that kind of money?
     
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  3. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Doubt that.
     
  4. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Really,

    Simply math, take the 70 hr week, in your scenario, the driver (working here) would run about 54 hrs at $20 per hour or 1080.00 then take the remaining 16 hrs at $12 per hour or 192.00 so if my math is right it would total 1272.00

    My guys are usually around 1350.00 or more for a full 70 hr.week.

    Keep something in mind, I didn't post this to compare rates, as much as I posted it to show that in this industry, as diversified as it is, there is not one "perfect" one size fits all formula.

    You have advantages that my guys don't, you are home every night, my guys run a couple of weeks and then take a week off, just depends on what's fits that person, that company.

    Do my guys run a lot of miles? Yes, but they also don't have to wait on dock times, sit at a truck stop, wait on a load, no re-powers, no slip seating, never have anyone standing over their shoulder, don't usually have to contend with much traffic, no tarping, no chaining, no haz-mat, never over axle, never over weight, never over height/width, never slide an axle, never have to scale.

    To each his own, if some guys are happy with being paid hub miles, fine, if some are happy being paid hourly, fine, if a driver feels he is worth more, HE (as in that driver) needs to let someone know, other than an internet forum, that it's not working for him/her.

    If that doesn't work, it's time for that driver to move on. The biggest problem with this industry, is the very drivers that will complain about what they are being paid, but yet are not willing to climb the ladder for a brighter future.

    This is what allows the mega carriers to exist and profit. The government is already far enough up my ###, I don't need them (a broke/bankrupt corporation, the Government) to tell me how to run my business.
     
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  5. mattbnr

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    So in your example your guys make $100 more a week but are gone 2-3x more often. Ii think I got it better honestly. think $100 a week is worth having every weekend off. Home time with my family is very important.
     
  6. Toomanybikes

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    So you pay 50cpm. So you can pay $19.29 an hour and get the same result: $1350/70 = $19.29.

    One can conclude the only reason you don't is this is not true:

    The only reason for cpm is dump managements inefficiencies on the driver.

    No pay system is ever going to stop you from paying your drivers what you want. So there should be no beef with paying them by the hour.
     
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  7. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Your right, that is what makes you happy, but there are some that don't have a family at home and just want to drive and bank a couple of bucks without all of the associated BS that usually goes with it.

    As I said, it's a very diversified industry, just have to find what you want. When I was on the road, I preferred to take my time off in a big chunk, I could plan projects, take vacations, visit family (I have none that live close) it was what worked for me.

    I tried the drive all week, get home on Friday night/sat morning, and walk around like a zombie for a day and a half, just doesn't work for everyone. If a guy wants to hire on here, and tells me he has little kids at home, I will tell him right up front this probably isn't for him.

    If all sides are honest with each other on what to expect, there should seldom be any issues.
     
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    First off your example is changing/twisting the equation, the stated was line 3 at $20 ph line 4 at $12 ph my driver typically run about 3400 miles a week at .40 cpm which is exactly what I said it was 1340.00 per week.

    I NEVER said I would have a problem paying by the hour, and if all my drivers came to me and said this is what they want, why not, I have just proven it would not cost me any more, right?

    But paying by the hour, there are some (hub mile) perks that they would lose, and considering that some of my drivers live quite a ways away, it could add up and cost them money.
     
  10. mattbnr

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    How would it cost them money? If they are driving they are getting paid. Empty, bobtail, loaded it all pays the same.

    Having to run 3400 miles to make a living is terrible. I run just over 2000 normally. Gotta work smarter not harder drivers. Last year I averaged
    .57 cpm. That's my drive time and line 4 added together.
     
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