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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzikan View Post
    I work for a cat dealer- CAT will NOT cover any resultant damage caused by an aftermarket device- any dealer caught installing it wwil loose their liscence, especially if it involves emissions (3000$ fine for tech, and up to 100000$ for shop) if the dealer is warranting it, it's not a CAT warranty-2 different things. I'm overhauling a brake saved 6NZ and he put on a bullydog non waste gate turbo, manifold and he lost any and all warranty for the $12000 I frame kit he bought, plus as a certified tech I have to report any and all aftermarket changes to cat ( including resistors on fuel and air temp sensors, plugged waste gate lines, etc) warranty is a touchy subject- it may be up to a year after the deale makes the claim and it can be rejected and they come back saying you have a bill to pay.
    dont take this the wrong way, but that is why i dont deal with cat shops anymore. all they care about is the warrenty back lash and not on how to treat the customer. i know they have their hands tied on the epa bs. i own the engine not cat!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzikan View Post
    I work for a cat dealer- CAT will NOT cover any resultant damage caused by an aftermarket device- any dealer caught installing it wwil loose their liscence, especially if it involves emissions (3000$ fine for tech, and up to 100000$ for shop) if the dealer is warranting it, it's not a CAT warranty-2 different things. I'm overhauling a brake saved 6NZ and he put on a bullydog non waste gate turbo, manifold and he lost any and all warranty for the $12000 I frame kit he bought, plus as a certified tech I have to report any and all aftermarket changes to cat ( including resistors on fuel and air temp sensors, plugged waste gate lines, etc) warranty is a touchy subject- it may be up to a year after the deale makes the claim and it can be rejected and they come back saying you have a bill to pay.
    Well with that being said that makes be think that I should just go with the 6NZ C-15 550hp 1850T rather then the C-16. Everything I read says the stock C-16 is a pig on fuel with out a tuner and other upgrades and that the stock C-15 550hp is not bad on fuel and pulls good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by superhauler View Post
    dont take this the wrong way, but that is why i dont deal with cat shops anymore. all they care about is the warrenty back lash and not on how to treat the customer. i know they have their hands tied on the epa bs. i own the engine not cat!
    They are not like that when it is no warranty- but if it is on warranty- it has to be in original condition, I agree that if it is yours, you can do what you want, but cat gives me my paycheck

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFDDJS View Post
    Well with that being said that makes be think that I should just go with the 6NZ C-15 550hp 1850T rather then the C-16. Everything I read says the stock C-16 is a pig on fuel with out a tuner and other upgrades and that the stock C-15 550hp is not bad on fuel and pulls good...
    Your rut, it is a pig 3-4mpg for the 600-625s, but it's 6-7 mpg on the 725s, they all u the same fuel #s (fls/fts) and the flash file is what does the difference-different fuel maps for the different hp ranges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzikan View Post
    Your rut, it is a pig 3-4mpg for the 600-625s, but it's 6-7 mpg on the 725s, they all u the same fuel #s (fls/fts) and the flash file is what does the difference-different fuel maps for the different hp ranges
    But from what I understand from you is that going to the 725hp will kill any warranty... Right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFDDJS View Post
    But from what I understand from you is that going to the 725hp will kill any warranty... Right??
    No, if you build it to cat spec with the right in frame platinum kit, pay for the new file (all iron must meet their spec) to get full 4 year unlimited mileage/ hours+ esc and free town g coverage, and the cherry is that it's a true 725! Just make sure ur trans can take it

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    When you do the opt's, that's the best time to update/rerate your engine to a higher horse, ex: 475 c15, build it to a 625 and the kit costs the same, just $500 more for the software all warranty approved like I said 4 yr unlm miles/hours, and free esc upgrade which covers towing

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    How are the C-15 625hp engines on fuel vs the 550hp

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    From what I see (in Alberta) around 5-7, depending on how it's driven, idle time etc for the 550s, 625s are 4-6, which in my eyes is quite decent for the power, I've seen both as low as 2/3 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzikan View Post
    They are not like that when it is no warranty- but if it is on warranty- it has to be in original condition, I agree that if it is yours, you can do what you want, but cat gives me my paycheck
    yes i know your hands are tied on those issues. all i know is the local shops i have dealt with ended up going through an attorney to get satisfaction. it wasnt the mechanics it was cat corp higher up's telling me what i could and couldnt do! they were wrong!

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