Trouble Shooting steer axle brakes. 2002 9400I

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  1. silver dollar

    silver dollar Medium Load Member

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    The other day I had to make a fairly hard stop. (Not hard enough to lock the wheels though). So im braking smooth and firm, then there's a "clunk" from the left front wheel and truck suddlenly pulls left.
    Later in the day I found that it will do this with hard firm braking applications. I want to pull the wheels to see whats going on. Any ideas as to what could be the problem? AnyonE else had this problem? Thanks

    Note: truck is a 2002 international 9400i
     
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  3. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    Check the spring pins make sure there is no movement there. You might need to place a small bottle jack between the axle and the frame to take pressure off the spring and pins.


    If there is a problem with the brakes it should be obviouse when you get the drum off. Don't forget to check the s cam and bushings.
     
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  4. silver dollar

    silver dollar Medium Load Member

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    Thanks for the reply. I was just out dropping the trailer and getting in a shady spot to start working. I was sitting still, brakes released, and depressed the pedal hard and there was that clunk. I released the pedal and depressed again but it didn't do it again. I drove a few miles making normal stops. Sitting still and pressed the brake hard and it clunked. But it didn't repeat until after it was driven again. I gonna wait till my son get here to see if we can determine what going on befoer we tear it down.
    It's starting to look like S cam and/or bushings.
     
  5. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    It could be the s-cam bushings allowing it to "jump" or it could be a flat spot on the "s" of the s-cam. If its a flat spot just rotate the s-cam a half turn. This should be done every time when changing brakes.
     
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  6. maggard359

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    Could have a bad slack adjuster. May pull it and see if splines are worn/broken on cam or adjuster.
     
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  7. eeb

    eeb Heavy Load Member

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    Check for cracks in the drums.
     
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  8. silver dollar

    silver dollar Medium Load Member

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    I haven't tore into yet, been laid up with the flu. But what you say makes perfect sense and I'd never thought of that. That will be the first thing I check when i get back to it. Hope I feel better today or tomorrow. Thanks
     
  9. Cetane+

    Cetane+ Road Train Member

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    Since its a steer axle. When was the last time you replaced the drums, sack adjusters, cans, shoes, S cams and bushings? Honestly, if it has been a while, you should replace everything at once. Its not that much money, and if its your truck, it is a wise investment. I always order every part to do with brakes, less valves, and change it all at once. Then you can get that warm fuzzy feeling when mr DOT looks under there at your brakes during an inspection. Good luck.
     
  10. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    There is a chance you could have a sticky brake chamber. The clunk is is the chamber applying either too slow, and when it does you feel it because it forcefully applies the brake on that particular side of your steer axle. Apply the brake and see if there is any delay, or if they chamber is slow to extend or retract. Try stabbing hard, medium and light to duplicate the problem. Thanks.
     
  11. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    Clunks are almost always worn s cam bushings or the s cams themselves where they meet the bushings.
     
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