The shop i mostly use has been recalibrating the injectors on more than several 14L detroits (most are container haulers) and i have been hearing the feedback. It is all good. can someone explain to me exactly what is being done? performance is uppp^ and so is the fuel mileage per the drivers of the trucks it has been done to. I dropped by today and the owner was telling me about his work but i didn't have the time to have it broken down for me. I was having other issues.
if i recall,recalibrating the injectors on the 12.7 was useless for the most part.
thanks in advance.
recalibrating injectors
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not all injector manufactures can make precision injectors with the same perfomance. So injector makers test every injector manufacted with special tool, that measures how much fuel for cycle injector injects in cylinder and generate calibration code of injector.
U enter code of every injector to ECM and engine runs smoothly.
Bosch for example makes injectors of the same perfomance and no calibration codes are used.
Delphi use calibration codes from early 2000sx#1 Thanks this. -
thanks pablo. I should have inquired more from him before i posted here i know but i have truly been wondering what he meant by recalibrating the injectors on a 14 litre detroit. honestly i am in search of a little more oomph. I have got to be at his shop in the a.m. tomorrow for a couple of things so i will ask more.thanks for taking the time to reply.
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If tearing engine apart to read numbers off injectors I hope it's being done as part of a overhead to keep cost down ... Some of the performance gain may of come from overhead being overdue ??
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well there ya go. I watched as he recalibrated the injectors. WOW. no two matched. the range was from 48 to 54 i think. he set them all to 75 and so from that point we will see. gosh,it has to help something since they were so far off.
unfortunately the egr tank is rusted out and being replaced BUT we did put in the resistor thingy. no need to elaborate for those that know what i am referencing.the engine growls now. new injector cups are on the way too.poor engine has issues but hopefully will soon be all well. it did fair considering so after the fact i should have a new monster. -
It is not a good idea to set them all the same. Using a trim to increase fuel does increase power, it adds more fuel. But, your cylinders are not balanced and it could lead to issues down the road. The best to to "legally" get more power is to have the engine uprated at a dealer.
You may not have issues, but it is a gamble. I personally would not do it, it's not worth the risk.magoo68 Thanks this. -
As GrapeApe says, those numbers are trim numbers. Think of it as a personality code. Each of those injectors flowed fuel a particular way on the test bench, and was assigned a code. Detroit only used a two-digit code, hence one injector with a 54, other with a 38, etc. When I worked at the Detroit/Allison dealer (yes, I'm a HD truck mechanic), we used to regularly apply the '75' code to a customer's truck that was inexplicably low on power. It resulted in modest power gains, nothing to brag about, really. Your engine won't necessarily blow up by doing this, and this other guy isn't some kind of genius and certainly didn't invent this. But it isn't particularly brilliant to tell the computer that an injector flow rated as a '22' is actually a '75'. It can result in a lopey idle or smoke, but I've never seen or heard of any kind of failure attributed to this 'tune'. If you want real power, safe power without changing ECM settings, bolt on a Steinbauer. Just my $0.02
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i appreciate the replies. update:
it is injector cup o-rings that is needed and i guess it will get an overhead done upon reassembly. they won't be in until 13:00 central today so i am losing another day of work but hopefully this will get me going for a little while.the wrong o-rings were sent initially.
i am a bit concerned regarding the already recalibrated injectors but will run it like it is for a bit.downtime sux but it is what it is for the time being. -
the .75 inj code idea has been around for a long time.
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The calibration code is the speed the solenoid reacts, it has nothing to do with fuel rate. when you change the codes to all 75 it just starts the fuel earlier, it may give you better power it also may cause piston damage, from preignition type piston heating, I have seen units get the 75 codes put in and run a few trips finding an increase in fuel burn, and longer trip times these were in units, that ran the same 144,000 lbs over the same road twice a day, two drivers, 11 hour trips, they gave immediate feed back on every change made to a unit. They use to come in the first trip after the fuel was changed to winter grade, many times the fuel company never new it had been changed, we finally got a number from Chevron to give us the information.
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