A potentially multimillion-dollar lawsuit against Swift Transportation which has been slowly making its way through the court system for the past almost 11 years has just had its class-action status reinstated by an Appeals Court judge. The suit will move forward on behalf of more than 80,000 drivers nationwide.
Like most carriers, Swift pays its company drivers by the mile. According to the lawsuit however, Swift didn’t actually track how many miles their drivers travelled, but only how many miles were between their pickup and drop-off points.
Using the Household Mover’s Guide, Swift would determine the mileage between the two points and pay their drivers accordingly. The problem is, according the lawsuit, because the HMG calculates the shortest route using any and all roads (even non-truck routes), the difference between HMG and the actual mileage can be as much as 10%. This means that Swift drivers (and many others in the industry both before and now) were possibly being underpaid by as much as 10%.
Swift has maintained that they were upfront with drivers about the practice of using the HMG to calculate driver pay, but whether or not that’s the case, the lawsuit claims that the carrier was using it to deliberately underpay their drivers.
Now that the class action status has been re-approved for the case, it opens the door for all approximately 80,000 Swift drivers in the class to receive at least some of that 10% they should have earned over a decade ago.
Source: truckinginfo, azcentral, azcentral
That’s how all companies pay and we’re screwed every time. HMG is basically,”how the crow flys” well my big bird has to stay on truck routs . So the HMG does not work.
Well said Sir!
Do all companies not use HMG or PC miler to pay drvers. Both calculate shortest practical miles city limit to city limit. If i am mistaken please correct me.
I was payed hub miles when I was driving OTR
The mileage software offers both shortest(hmg) and practical. Most companies pay shortest miles because that’s what they get paid by.
Thats not true.. You think swift was so stupid the negotiated 10 percent off the billing. NO they billed hub to hun and paid house hold.. The house hold was used ling before GPS.
Except you have no clue what you are talking about. Every customer has a different version of a different software they use when contract rates are negotiated. Some more, some less. Too little to squabble over. Unless you are a driver. This will get you more miles but less per mile. Enjoy
I drive for a lumber mill delivering green lumber to surrounding states and we get paid by the odometer. And we don’t have to try and “cut” miles. Used to drive for one of the “big” carriers and was always into it with them about loads being paid short.
How about zip code to zip code.
Swift and Decker are both guilty I know !
I have lost as much as over 200 miles I was never payed for, on one run alone by Decker.
Swift was just as bad !
My company pays according to rand McNally and cheats out mIles well. Hope there’s a class on the way the company’s I worked for. Just pay me according to the route miles that they put in the electronic units in the trucks. I mean damn, it ain’t like they can’t aford it. Why cheat the man that’s keeping u in business? Just chare the shipper the difference.
Sweet. Maybe they will settle and I will get a $50 check in the mail. Atleast the lawyers will be paid millions, since they deserve it.
I worked there for 8 years during that time. 4 company and 4 owner op. THATS approximately 1 million miles because I trained the last 4 years. So at a dollar a mile 10 percent is 100 thousand dollars. Show me the money.
LAWYERS SHOULD WAIVE 20% OF THEIR 33% FEE! SINCE THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED THE NEXT TIME THEY GO TO THE STORE..!
Some Companies switched from HMG to practical route milage in the 90’s it’s no secret HMG has been the standard, but that didn’t make it right especially when trailer dimensions changed and road restrictions prevented certain routes to be taken. I’ve never been a fan of Swift or JB (worked for them 25years ago) driver are tools to be exploited.
I never can understand why drivers drive for big companies. I never can understand why drivers drive for anyone not paying ALL miles driven. That’s includes dead head. I don’t understand why drivers drive for bird seed. I’ve never driven for a big company, their pay stinks and they screw you at every turn….or so I hear. If you don’t make at least $1500 a week for seven days of living in a truck your retarded in my book. That’s as a company driver ofcourse. Every time I hear a driver talking about “earning” days off I cringe. Earned? ??! You a piece of property? I set my own schedule, always have, always will. Drivers are in high demand, not trucking companies….
We all always have been short on pay when it comes to miles. Even the company we work for now.
Each trip is 50 to 100 mile longer than we are paid for.
And we run team.
I worked for Swift back in 2003 and was paid HMG and left to work for CFI which pays practical miles and even though it was a huge difference between those two systems of pay when it comes to what you actually drove and what you were actually paid, the practical mile system is still not perfect and would still short you at times. But it’s a whole lot better and closer to the actual miles driven. Much much better then HMG
Not only shortest route,but zip code to zip code. Only about 5-7 miles per load. Or 2 free drive shifts per year.
Funny thing is, they claim all the mileage for business expense to the IRS every year. Now if IRS would jump on the bandwagon with the drivers, we would actually see how much of a gap there really is in payroll taxes because that is lost money for IRS. There is not a single reason now for trucking companies using programs like Rand McNally a trusted household word that any person on jury would know about. To be using door to door mileage, would you as a business person? I believe there is a couple, Taxi’s, Uber, Left, UPS, and so on….
Every trucking company I ever worked for screwed the drivers out of miles.
around 10% seemed to be the industry standard theft.
I would always compare my actual miles to their THEORETICAL miles,
but complaining RARELY got you anywhere except on the dispatcher’s
$hit List.
MOST trucking companies treat the drivers (who make the money for them)
like a NECESSARY EVIL! Many talk a good game, but they screw you just the
same. Don’t get Mad – Get Even!
The worst is routing us around turnpikes to avoid the toll then paying us turnpike mileage.
No….what is really messed up, is the contact practice of charging the customer for you to use the turnpike or toll roads, and then, restricting you from driving them. You lose time and money taking a longer, slower route. And the company pockets the cost of the toll roads right on to their bottom line profit on the load.
I guess i should be greatful I get the miles i turn in . Thats one of the perks for working for a small company
Every OTR company I’ve driven for in my twenty one years paid this way. Doesn’t make right, it just meant if I didn’t like it don’t work for them. The choice of who I drove for was always mine and one I made based on who paid the most. Regardless of the pay, I always felt like just another piece of machinery on the truck. It didn’t take long for me to loose faith in the ads for drivers claiming that “drivers are treated like family”. My mistake was thinking they were talking about a mystical family where love and kindness were the treatments referred too.
” Unicorn Transportation ! “
You and I have the same yrs of experience. I used to drive for one of those companies that did everything possible to maximize their profits, while shorting the drivers on miles and cpm pay. I eventually got fed up and switched to a different company also based out of NE, that uses Red and White as their primary colors with some blue thrown in for the reefer side. They pay practical miles and have a high driver pay scale package to go with it. As opposed to the light blue trucks and trailers out of Omaha that Rob drivers blind. Just to hammer the point home, I spoke to my old supervisor yesterday who still works there, and even with my 21yrs of experience, I would start a full 11¢ per mile less than I’m paid now, and it would take me almost 13yrs to make it to the top of the pay scale, which is still 6CPM less than I make now. It only took me 4yrs to top out on the pay scale here where I drive now. There are good companies to work for out there….mine isn’t the only one. Do your research fully, and find one that’s the right fit for you.
I used to drive for one of those companies that did everything possible to maximize their profits, while shorting the drivers on miles and cpm pay. I eventually got fed up and switched to a different company also based out of NE, that uses Red and White as their primary colors with some blue thrown in for the reefer side. They pay practical miles and have a high driver pay scale package to go with it. As opposed to the light blue trucks and trailers out of Omaha that Rob drivers blind. Just to hammer the point home, I spoke to my old supervisor yesterday who still works there, and even with my 21yrs of experience, I would start a full 11¢ per mile less than I’m paid now, and it would take me almost 13yrs to make it to the top of the pay scale, which is still 6CPM less than I make now. It only took me 4yrs to top out on the pay scale here where I drive now. There are good companies to work for out there….mine isn’t the only one. Do your research fully, and find one that’s the right fit for you.
All 3rd party companies do this!! It’s a competition between them for getting businesses but they end up taking a low end deal which means they have to pay their drivers chump change!! How they do it is calculate city to city, not dock to dock! You may end up getting shorted anywhere between 5 to 10 miles everytime. On top of that, dispatchers may end up shorting you more after adding all your miles for the week. I worked for JB Hunt for 3 yrs and everyweek there was a problem with my paycheck!! I was always short 50 or 100 or even as much as 400 miles because they didn’t calculate empty miles. Now with the E-Log system intact, i don’t understand why companies don’t go back to paying drivers hourly!! All your hours are recorded legally on the E-Log!
How about the US DOT using this industry wide scam to force hourly pay.
Hourly pay sucks
Getting paid for all your work sucks? LOL! Keep that outlook buddy, it leaves more high paying jobs for those of us who are living with our eyes open. I’ll take my hourly pay and the OT that comes along with it, your more than welcome to stop getting paid everytime your stationary!
So very well said, Steve!!
Make more driving by the mile.
Hourly minimum wage is ten bucks. Most you can work is 70 hours. 700 bucks a week before taxes . By the mile can make 800 to 1000 a week after taxes and benefits.
Hourly wage is a terrible idea and would benefit the companies even more.
Good luck finding drivers getting paid so little every week.
I believe you are missing the concept of paying hourly for OTR drivers that are “working” from the time their truck leaves the terminal until it returns or a possible 168 hours per week. That would then result in $1680 gross weekly paycheck.
Of course, that is the ONE scenario NO COMPANY will be willing to face so the only drivers that will get HOURLY pay are those local route drivers that start from and end their day at their own yards such as delivery trucks that pick up t a distribution center and deliver to a grocery store or small package delivery services such as UPS and the like.
Yeah, I don’t know why truck drivers are exempt from being paid for the work they do. I’ve never done so much free work as I have when I began truck driving. Trucking companies seem to have a million ways to screw drivers out of money. Who knew you could sue them over it?
They give me one route and pay me for the other one. I worked for a company that had 80% hazmat and they were constantly paying me to drive routes which I could have been arrested using.
When I had the misfortune of driving for SWIFT, they would also assign the route and potentially well out of the way fuel stops, so it gets even worse.
It’s pretty much industry standard, they aren’t cheating anyone. Some companies call it dispatch miles. Either way it never quite adds up.
It is cheating. I have drove up to 27 miles and have only gotten paid for 1 because the next stop is in the same city. Just because swift tells you they are going to screw you before hand makes it ok?
I get practical miles and Can often times do a run in less miles. Sometimes, a LOT less.
Swift uses Random McNally mover miles. Yes, it screws us. Always off up to 10 percent. However, the real crime is Swift claiming the customer is in a different city,than they actually reside,to short drivers on pay.
My small company(13 trucks) pays by the odometer mile. I will not pay drivers map or PC miles. We have almost no driver turnover. These problems can be solved.
It’s just a rip off plain and simple. I only drove for one company before I got my authority. Both as a company driver and an owner op. Nice little Christian outfit. I’m sure you have heard of them. I wish 10 percent was all they stole. More like 20 as a company driver and around 15 as an owner op. I heard every excuse in the book. Movers guide, zip to zip, city to city. I purchased a routing program for my laptop and would run all possible routs. Never did one actually work out to what I was paid. I even had a duplicate run at one time that was from the same shipper to the same receiver. First one paid 430 miles on a 565 run and the second 412 miles. I think dispatch just makes it up as they go along. They are paid a small percentage of what they can screw you out of.
Until all the clowns in washinton agree that all truck drivers should be reclassified to non-exempt employee’s, and the broker / carrier are required to fully compensate the drivers for all working hours at their regular hourly wage plus overtime after 40 hours the problem will never be resolved.
Think about how much tax money the IRS is loosing to this scheam every year. Maybe it’s time for them to wake up and actually enforce the laws fairly.
When the broker or carrier have to reach into their own pockets to compensate the drivers they will stop servicing the customers that fail to comply. The drivers will be able to plan their day safely, and the carriers will be more proffitable inthe end.
As it is the carriers are accepting whatever pitance the customer might pay them after at least 2 hours. If you are fortunate enough to work for a carrier that is honest, you might get paid part of it, but most carriers pocket the money, and then tell the drivers they never gor paid for the detention time.
I work for a small comp. and get paid hub miles I refused to work for any comp that paid hmg , pc miller or other (made up rate)
Glad to hear this! This has been a problem from day one! It is not difficult in this day and age to allow the technology available to work like it should! Route to route actual mileage is easier to calculate than pouring a bowl of cereal! Stop screwing people just so your share holders can afford that extra vacation home!
Well can’t wait for the that load was 250 miles how did you accumulate 500 miles on it?
Well I got lost and took the scenic route.
No matter what Swift claims, and all its so-called driver sympathizers with them; neither Swift or its affiliate companies, were forthright in disclosing the details of the impact “HMG” standards would have on our paychecks.
However i will grant them this, they were “swift” to remind you that if you ever deviated from the “HMG” routing madness, for a more sensible or logical route, you would be responsible for any and all damages should anything bad happen.
Lots of companies do this. If this lawsuit actually goes into favor of the drivers then more than likely it will open doors on more lawsuits. The company I work at claimed 10% as well some loads it’s less but I’ve seen some loads that it’s much more than 10%. Then the 1/4 of the year bonuses are paid and I’ll be damn it makes up the difference……if you get it that 1/4.
Brokers love this setup.. & you missed this,
understand that there are two charges generated for a load.
What a broker pays the DRIVER and what the broker charge the CUSTOMER
are two DIFFERENT figures.
NOTICE that you BOL has NO figures included..
Guess who gets the smelly end of the stick in ALL of these transactions.
BTW, this the MAJOR reason O/O have been put out of business.
If you think you are dealing with an honest BROKER.. get real and quit smelling the roses.
When I started driving, we were paid off the odometer. That’s the only fair and right way to do it.
Hubby worked for Swift and there were times they either told him to drive a different route, or because of weather or traffic he had to drive a different route and he reported it to them. In some cases it was literally 100+ miles out of the normal route, but Swift only paid what THEY determined and it isn’t even pick up to drop off, it’s zipcode to zipcode which makes it off by 5 to 10 miles more! If companies are going to pay drivers per mile to drive, they should pay them for ALL the miles they drive! Such a crock! Glad the courts are looking at it. I’m sure the drivers will only get a $20 check in the mail if it settles and the lawyers will get rich (again) but maybe going forward it will change for the new drivers.
Here’s 2 more things to think about; they use actual miles to calculate your IFTA taxes and when calculating your appt times they use the PC miler miles (or whatever program gets them the cheapest driver pay out). On long hauls that 10% difference could be up to 100 mi. That can be a 2hr travel difference. I argued with my dispatchers all the time when they didn’t think I was delivering fast enough. “just because you only pay me HMG miles, doesn’t mean I can dump your crap off my truck when I’ve driven that many miles, I’ve got to go the whole way!”
I always subtracted 10% from the miles I drove for my logbook. Then when I compared them to my pay, I was real damned close. Figured if I wasn’t payed those miles, I wasn’t logging them.
It doesn’t matter if this goes through they’ll just find another way to cheat the drivers. I love how they talk a great game that you are family and your their most precious employee. But they would devote hours of time to screw you out of pay. Case and point where I used to work drivers had to work two years to get 2 weeks vacation and five years to make it to 3 weeks vacation. Office workers got 4 weeks vacation in 4 years tell me how that is the same.
Figure thousands of drivers/trucks getting shorted pay.That really adds up.Reminds me of some kind of organized crime racket. I thought i remembered that Swift also had their own creative version of HMG? Zip code to Zip code,All those big cities you drive around the mileage doesn’t count. I bet my check in the mail will won’t be right either.
Good when this is done am going to hire the attorney to get the tens of thousands Walmart owes me from the 1990’s..Bastards was 14% shorted..
Trucking is heavily regulated but to my knowledge the feds have yet to impose any specific table of miles on the transportation industry. Unless and until that happens, any drivers who think they legally deserve more paid miles than whatever table the company they hired on with happens to use, are barking up a very, very empty tree.
For those who may not have figured this out yet—either justifiably due to inexperience or unjustifiably due to ignorance and stupidity—most companies of any size whatsoever in most industries place employee relations—-especially when it comes to things like veracity and transparency—on a very, very low pedestal. But with this said, unless there was something really bizarre going on at Swift like intentionally slashing paid miles drastically below whatever standard was agreed upon (whether it be HMG, RM, whatever), it’s ridiculously frivolous to accuse them of cheating drivers out of any mileage pay just because the paid miles didn’t happen to be hub miles (or something equivalent to hub miles). This class action doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
Schneider pays zip code to zip code also…… my checks never match the mileage actually driven not by a long shot
Wow. I remember when this was fresh news on the CB. Kind of depressing that it’s only now going forward. Are they hoping the drivers die of old age first?
Practical is far more common up in Canada, but there are still a few hold-outs using HMG, and the difference is pretty brutal at times, especially when they use center-of-city as a reference point, which could see you spending all morning crossing a major city for absolutely nothing. While I certainly hope this lawsuit goes through, and severely enough to make other companies rethink their own pay practices, at a certain point the driver needs to look at their odometer, look at their paid miles, and decide for themselves.
One way we will get the attention of big companies is everyone band together and take one day off let’s say fourth of July all truckers take off park trucks for that one day and watch how the pay respect get in check
Hell that ain’t nothing my first terminal manager ripped off all the drivers in that terminal by taking advances in the drivers name and we were never given back the money stolen from us hell leaving swift was the best moce i could have ever made they cost me my house and vehicle would love to get paid that 10% that i drove and didn’t get paid for driving for 1.5 years with them
As a owner op for anothwr major company that used the same milage format. The bigest loss i encountered was when i needed to get around lake michigan it roughted me across the water as the crow flys … 60 mile loss….by land…
60mi is your worst case? Try running from somewhere like Columbia SC up to Chicago or MI. The HMG will pay the route you wouldn’t ever logically use. And the mileage will be off by 100+ miles verses practical miles.
I drive between 130,000 and 150,000 miles a year. Both my current company and the last, over a 5 year period pay the same way.
Been underpaid by over 56,000 bucks.
I endured the same thing with the company I was loyal to for 11yrs. My 1st year driving for the company I switched to, which was during the economy slump of 7yrs ago, still gave me a gross pay increase of $25,000. Due to higher mileage pay AND being paid practical miles. I push myself hard while I’m out here, but the reward is that I now make $85-90k a year, instead of killing myself to earn $40k.
Its about time!!!!!!!!!!Truckers are ripped off all the time with this pay scale. Funny how they tell you they know where the truck is up to 25 feet but want to pay you as the crow flies. About time someone stands up and says no more!!!! C.R. England, Swift, and all the others should be put in jail for stealing from drivers.
Werner as well. Gave them 11yrs of my career and never even got close to the top of their laughable pay scale. Moved over to Crete, started getting paid practical miles at a much higher rate and topped out the pay scale in only 4yrs. Now I make double what I use to at Werner
This lawsuit is not whether Swift was “upfront” about the pay arrangements–but whether or not HMG is even a legal method for calculating driven miles. Note: This lawsuit could force every trucking company in America that uses HMG to change its calculations–to miles driven based on actual miles. For example, if a trucking company use satellite/GPS/Qualcolm etc tracking technology for the customer, and in contrast uses HMG for payment, there is a verifiable difference in miles driven–for all reasons associated with unknowns, detours, etc.. And therefore, verifiable tracking evidence the trucking company is knowingly being underhanded and deceitful to the driver.
trucking companies are pick pockets. 10% on miles is nothing to what they were really getting the drivers for. and swift in my book is the worst of them all. drivers are worried about 10%. they don’t even realize swift transportation is the root cause for how drivers are being treated today. and how badly swift has damaged the industry and every drivers way of life.
All any class action lawsuit is, is a big payday for the lawyers.
I want to at least get paid for the time I log on duty ,, oh and the time I sit at the shipper and the consignee and the time I sit waiting for a load,, hell if they can’t do that I should at least get paid for every single mile I drive right off of the odometer !! what say you ??
I worked for a company that paid shortest route for my first 2 years of driving. Then I did my homework and found a company that pays practical mileage and a much better rate. The difference in my checks was enormous. After 8 years of raises I made $77,000 last year. Swift and companies like it should only be used to get experience. Keep your record clean and do your homework. You can still make a good living in this industry. I do have to drive a slow truck as that saves my company in fuel expenses. But the $80,000 I’ll make this year makes it well worth it.
We might drove for the same company. 🙂 practical miles make a huge difference. Plus having a top industry pay scale helps too. I busted my butt last year and including all extras, 401k, profit sharing, and vacation pay, I made $90k. It’s out there, and it can be done.
I make 90 to 100k and sleep in my own bed every night! I did the long hauls for my first year with Swift. Now 11 years ago. The way they paid the drivers was horrible. I could drive the same amount of miles every week and my checks would be up and down. It’s like they pick and choose what trips to pay for each week. I feel I am at the top of my field. Been hauling fuel for 5 years. Wish I got into it much sooner. Good money, (paid for every minute I’m on the job) good benefits, home every night. 🙂
Hi John, sure sounds like the same. I get mad at ’em every now & then. But articles like this reminds me we’ve got it pretty good over here.
What company do you work for?
We are long overdue for a different way of pay in this industry. With all the government regulations why don’t we get paid like government workers??????? Just think about that for a while
You’re all correct. All the big and small companies can pay actual mileage with today’s technology they use in the trucks. Knowing it records actual mile, and is encrypted in the satellite system and never lost.
A group of us have a lawsuit against JB Hunt over the same matter, plus other issues.
No….”All” companies don’t use the HMG. Only the ones wanting to rip-off their drivers. My company pays practical miles and I more often than not, complete my runs in “UNDER” the paid miles. So overall, I’m paid for what I actually have driven….and then some.
Here we go again. No, it’s no secret that the truck doesn’t have wings. (Thank you JB). So they say it’s all about the TECHNOLOGY in theses trucks. Ok, then why can’t the software track mileage from start to finish on each run..?? Seem’s like this would’ve been done already. Nooo, we gotta have trucks that slam on the brakes for no reason & have the potential for another accident..!!
Dang Sliding Pay-scale rodents?
The load pays what it pays… ask an O/O.
Holy cr@p, let’s see 10 percent x 3,000,000 miles in 30 years….I’m freaking rich…..wooho…..wha…????legal fees???? Taxes????? Aw cr@p, never mind…..
You Norman newbies need to realize if you’re in Trucking and you expect to get paid for everything you do get out now because it will not happen
Practical or HMG has been the standard for a while yet cheating the driver while the company benefits from being paid full mileage, why do you suppose at the end of every trip upon empty call the mileage is required. My company uses a suggested routing guide which is close to paid miles but no cigar. There was only 1 company worked for that paid door step to door step running dedicated yet we were screwed out of stop/unloading pay. They’re gonna get you 1 way or the other.
How do you get involved in the lawsuit against Swift my husband Troy drove for over a year and got robbed of miles
I make 80k a year driving for swift. They are my first company and been with them for 2 years. I’m not going to say they are very best company but hey what I know I only worked for them… There could be better companies out there but for now I just stay around swift. They screw me in miles every time when I go west vergnia just because of all the mountains and no truck routes.
Well praise God and give thanks in and for all things. I have been a professional tractor trailer driver since 1987 just celebrated my 29th year I’m driving. The last two years has been as an owner operator. Some additional information should be shared at this point. LTL carriers pay exact miles as if it were Hub miles because they have measured the distance between two points with the proper roads. I noticed this was Conway Southern Express in 1989. What a breath of fresh air to get paid the actual miles that you drive. All I know I think it’s long overdue for truck drivers just stop giving up so much. Average over-the-road driver will only make $8 to$13 an hour, and he has stayed away from home usually 2 to 4 weeks. And you wonder why there were thirty thousand jobs lost in the transportation driving position for the month of June 2016. I have found this mileage Battle with Averitt Express with Schneider National personally writing letters and how much money I was losing each and every week. And they own and the only response I got was that’s just the way it is. Trucking is always been that way. We need to go back to having loyalty between the shippers and the receivers and whoever is paying the freight bill and stop giving more money to the brokers and less to the drivers. Because we even give up hours upon hours of waiting time.
Hourly pay doesn’t sick for me I get 22.80 per hour time and 1/2 after 8 hrs per day made 72000 last year and work no more than 60 hrs per week I love hourly pay did I mention I slept in my wife’s bed every night
As long as the drivers are giving it away the companies will take it…Sadly Drivers are the biggest giveaway artists I have ever seen…they get paid at best for about 1/2 of the work that they do…the rest of it somebody else is getting paid for…
If this litigatory process rules in favour of the drivers, there will be millions of drivers seeking the same compensation from many, many other trucking companies who chose to use software pkgs that screw drivers out of hundreds of miles evey month.
Maybe this will get all the companies paying drivers what they should be. Will be glad to get some or all of my 10 percent from Swift. Right after I started with them and seen this was how they where doing it I told the dm I will drive what you are paying me for and I will pull over and pull the brake he said you can’t do that I said how can you steal a hundred miles from me on one trip if I stole a lug nut from Swift they would fire me.
I’ve lost over 20,000 last year because of not being paid all miles at swift
Swift ischeating me out of miles, i want to quit. Are all companys the same
Ya me to brotha they got me for over 20,000 last year I’m so pissed
Im on the sqift kawsuit sinxe 2013.when this is suppost to be settle?
This also doesn’t account for contracts that are no published correctly. They go back and collect money from the customers but they do not pay out to the drivers
When I drove for Swift there was some company’s that put miles they were charged and it was way more than we were paid, When we demanded pay for miles the company was charged all of a sudden they quit putting miles on bills of lading. I asked one planner if Swift was charging customers off of house hold movers guide or off of practical route guide, Got told quietly they pay practical route guide.
I at swift for 5 year how much will i get ??????????
How do I get in on this? I drove for swift from 97 to 05.
Swift would tell us ” it all evens out, sometimes you’re paid more, sometimes less, than miles allotted “. I tracked it for a month. Most times I was underpaid 60 to 120 miles per run. Just one time I was paid 10 miles more than navigation showed. No reason why, with today’s technology, they can’t figure out exactly door to door miles are. Some companies are already paying that.
And they keep one or two pennies of your mileage pay per mile
I did worked for swift as a owner operator from 2004 to 2007, how I know if swift owns me any money?
There was a recent lawsuit settled last year, did you get that?
I need to be added to the lawsuit. Can I get the name of the law firm involved?
As a Swift Mentor, I can tell you that Swift is not telling new drivers about their mileage pay. They advertise PPM, but new driver don’t know what that really means, and Swift does not take any extra effort to explain it. They also do not explain the sliding scales pay either. I will testify in court if need be.
not even close to “how the crow flys”. Now don’t take me wrong, I agree that its bs but the actual situation is so much worse. The system uses zip code to zip code routing, meaning the system routes you to the general area of the destination from the general area of the destination.
That is the way most of the industry works so this will set a huge precedent and chain of lawsuits nationwide. I agree drivers should get paid for all miles driven Independant in how they quote for a customer. Making it easier for shippers to obtain quotes that can be compared as apples to apples should not take a toll on drivers pay. Driver have not participation on the quote so we should not be the ones getting affected by this business model. The same applies for contractors/lease operators
How do i become part of this suit
There is still a discrepancy in pay. My husband was hired by Swift to be paid by the mile but he never gets paid for all of the miles driven. Pay is currently based on from zip code to zip code & not by actual miles required to go from point A to point B.
He began employment with Swift this year & the discrepancies began showing up almost immediately.
I was part of this Class action lawsuit drivers VS swift 2018 I received my settlement but swift ultimately issued me a 1099 form that I’ve been fighting for the last 5 years the irs have been procrastinating now im in the process getting my case back in court