Hours of Service (HOS) reform stands to have a huge impact on the trucking industry, so it’s no surprise that input is coming in from all sides on the changes that have been proposed by federal regulators. With over three weeks left to go in the public comment period, over 1,000 comments have already been submitted.
Proposed changes to the rules include increasing flexibility for the mandatory 30-minute rest break, allowing a small amount of wiggle room with split sleeper exceptions, and adding a ‘pause’ button to drivers’ 14-hour on-duty time.
While most industry groups seem pleased that HOS reform is being considered, the reviews of the reforms that have been proposed are mixed. The most common complaints seem to be that the ‘pause’ button could make it possible for unscrupulous carriers and dispatchers to push drivers into an even longer work day. Safety advocates are concerned that it could mean days lasting as long as 17 hours. And even though most are happy that the 30-minute break has had some flexibility added to it, some are unhappy that it continues to exist at all.
Multiple groups including the American Trucking Association have asked for an extension to the public comment period. There has been no word yet on whether or not the extension requests will be granted. Even without additional days however, the responses from across the industry keep pouring in.
Anthony Grove says
Need to eliminate elogs all together and return back to log books
Kevin says
That’s a smartest thing that ever came out of a truck driver right there
Norbert Siewert says
How about eliminating logs altogether. Leave it up to the driver to determine when he needs to rest. Only he knows when he cannot continue. A good rule of thumb is eight hours behind the wheel is enough. Ten hours, find a place to stop. Twelve hours, too much.
Patterson says
You kinda contradicted yourself,you wrote leave it up to the driver and then 8 hours is enough…The key is to be safe no matter how many hours a driver drives 8,10 or 11 is not the limit for safety…
Andrew says
Does not work that way, these “ forced breaks” are so trucking companies can’t take advantage of drivers.
They’ll force drivers to work even longer hours. Until you’re completely exhausted.
Raul says
True
Bridget says
I agree!!!!
Mack Tingstrom Jr. says
You’re right!!
Bryan Edwards says
We need to be able to stop the 14 hour clock . Used to be able to stop and take anap if I needed it or sit down and enjoy a hot meal if I wanted to like a normal human being , now it’s just a race against the clock day after day living my life around a computer and it sucks . After 30 years of trucking it’s just no fun anymore.
Dewayne says
I completely agree with not being able to stop the clock needs to be over turned. Once the clock starts you can’t stop until the day is done witch makes driver fatigue a serious problem. Not being able to stop the clock and rest is a safety issue personally.
Mack Tingstrom Jr. says
Only if the drivers need the 30 minute break. They should be able to make it up when they see fit.
Placid N says
It is a simple normal issue that the rule makes should have done without causing problems to the industry. Stricter penalties check for drivers excesses. Stricter rules add to driver fatigue. Leave the rule of 14 hours. Make it flexible. eg. I went to the chemical plant to load. They take their time. They don’t hurry due to the nature of the product. It takes 4 hours to finish loading, another 1 hour for logistics and scale and lab and paperwork. By the time you are on the interstate you are down to 4 or 5 hours of driving time for the day.
Scott says
I have no problem with hours of service. It actually protect me from my employer going against the law
David Jones says
Agreed!!!
Diego says
Agreed
Sara says
I’m rooting on you that 14 hour rule. we are not puppet toys used like poppits. Enough is enough. E logs are not reality. Neither are the idiots that are forcing drivers according to their plans. We don’t drive through the sky over the terrain. We have to be connected to the Earth for our deliveries. We are not part of the circuit board. May as well make our semis glass . An even better view to keep track of us.
Patterson says
I find it strange how the rights of drivers kinda resemble the rights of slaves in the land of the free…
Patterson says
Every driver in this country should be fed up…
Scott Stone says
I agree trying to beat the clock doesn’t allow for a healthy diet or lifestyle
Mike says
That’s the truth, I feel I need to push all the time . It’s made trucking less safe ..I’ve never seen so many accidents especially in winter. Also trucks that are all busted up , dirty and clearly not being maintained properly..because the Elog is running and some will not stop and get repairs done ..I could go on and on ..
Geri mann says
I agree with that. After 35 yrs I’m so tired of the robot shit. We are not all the same. Even sardines in a can are not all the same. Just because a book says I need 8 hrs of sleep does not mean I sleep 8 hrs. Hell 5-6 hrs and I’m ready to roll. I remember when you could go in enjoy the company of a fee drivers have coffee or meal and run some more. Know I’m lucky to walk my dog. Or take time to wipe my ass. They want safety as #1 then they need to leave it up to the driver to drive when alert and sleep when sleepy. I believe there would be less crashes if they would stop putting us all in the same cracker box. And in force some of the driving laws on these 4 wheelers (passenger vehicles) like they do us big rigs. Start writing tickets to these cars that make illegal lane changes, ramp departures, merging in to traffic, ETC…but what do I know I’m just a cracker cranes in a government box
Geri mann says
That crammed in government box
mike cole says
What is wrong with these people simply regulate shippers and receivers fix the traffic and weather! stop saying truck driver, like were all the same. I’ve been driving 25plus years I’m not the same as a new driver that a insult on so many levels. They dont want to fix anything because there high paying jobs will go away plus we all knowcwere this is heading atomis vehicles.this is alllll bs
Kevin says
They don’t want to regulate to shippers they can’t make no money off it just like they don’t want to fix all of the truck parking now they when they want tell you can’t park on the on ramp instead of fixing the problems they write your ticket for it and make money why would they fix the parking problem when they’re making money off itppl
Brandon says
If you’re parking on a highway ramp maybe you should plan better? Pretty stupid place to park to begin with. Plan better and do a better job of planning where you will be stopping for the rest break.
Glen handwerk says
Trying to plan is one thing but to many things change in a day of trucking if u where a driver u wouldn’t make such a stupid statement.
Jack says
Brandon is the one of the many idiots, period.
Daniel morgan says
Agreed
Geri mann says
RIGHT
Chris Bunnell says
By that comment, we know your not a driver. Planning is great, but it doesn’t always work out.
Plan. 200 miles in 4 hours. (Easy)….. Until you sit in traffic for 2 hours downtown Chicago due to a accident. Then you have 2 hours to make it as far as you can and find a safe place to park. And it’s 7 pm and all truck stops are full…. Rest areas full…. Then your plan becomes….. PARK WHERE EVER YOU CAN!
Norbert Siewert says
My biggest problem is the 14 hour rule. No other log issue has caused me more trouble. I have had more suspensions due to that repugnant rule than any other. Often, a customer holds me in detention for hours. Then, when the truck is unloaded, I am required to vacate the premises. Never mind that I am now out of hours. I cannot legally drive, but am required to do so. I would love to punch the DOT, my employer, and the customer in the face. All three are guilty of absolute contempt!
Joe says
Right and when you plan your stop and the truck stop is full because there isn’t enough truck stops for all the trucks on the road, what then moron!!!!
Juan Torres says
A lot of things happen on the road. So making plans does not work !!! Us truck drivers go through a lot during our work days. We park were we can when our time is up.
david l bates says
Sometime parking on a ramp is the only place you can park I’ve been doing this 40 years it’s not about planning better after your 10 hours of driving you need to park somewhere and a ramp is the only place you can find truck stop be full
Placid N says
Yes you can plan. There are unforeseen circumstances eg accidents, road closures, breakdown etc. think about the long haul and city delivery truck driver. I think a flexibility to the 14 hours is welcome. The driver knows when he is tired. Stricter rules add to driver fatigue. Hefty fines check driver excesses. eg : crashes related to handheld cellphone is reduced.
Moose says
You obviously either don’t drive a truck or if so you’ve never been to PA or NJ.
CC says
Agreed!
William Brewer says
And don’t forget all the road construction delays that seems never ending..
Marco says
I was born in this industry, my grandfather and my father were participants of the economical growth of this 2 beautiful nations. U.S AND CANADA. They both had a saying that left a mark in my ways of trucking.. first we are humans and second we are conscious and aware of what are the capabilities of the body. Now when our government is shocking your nation with migrants to come in and take your job or way of life? Now you question the real reason why? It will all come down to opening the path for robots to come and eliminate all of us. We need to stand up for our industry and fight for the ones that are going to pick it up after us. Keep in mind that robots is the path of bloody war and there’s only so much we can allow our government to control.
Erich E Whaples says
Congress, the FMCSA, DOT and corrupt Judges in this country will continue to get people murdered with their stupidity, ignorance and the blood money they get. The ELD, HOS and all the other ignorant regulations are all about money and control, nothing else.
mike cole says
If you dont understand a word then I can fix. Look up the word truck driver in the dictionary the next word say (NOUN- IM A PERSON AND IM A THING DRIVER NOUN) CHange to a easier noun (Fish,dogs ect) now say all the same bs and see how stupid it sounds. Drivers killed change noun to fish killed insert your no.—— so you think sharks killed so many people you need to regulate gold fish (next sifi movie attract of the killer goldfish) come on pretty stupid? Safety that’s the biggest joke about this
Me says
I have been out here for 24 years I have no problem with the eld log I get to sleep now but we need to get every driver on the same page let’s not make it so we have to work longer days we need higher pay and to be paid for every hour that we are away from home and not sleeping…. we need to be put under the fair labor act so we get overtime
Kevin says
We need to get paid $2,000 a week that’s $20 an hour straight time for a hundred hours and then you divide that by 2,500 miles that should be come out to what we should be paid by the mile there’s no overtime there’s no nothing that’s twenty bucks an hour that they’re still getting a good deal
John Bigham sr. says
Don’t put us all in the same basket. That would be a big pay cut for some of us!
Kelly W says
That’s odd, I’ve never worked a hundred hours trucking. I drive 2500 to 2800 regularly. At times up to 3800, this week about 1900.
My business is a tractor and a reefer, not paid by the mile, though we calculate it. Weekly pay is 1k with 7 weeks paid vacation. Business profit is similar or more.
I’d work minimum wage position, if and when they raise it for thirty or forty hours, not trucking any hours for $20. Why do you only value yourself at that rate?
Cesar Lira says
Agreed.
Dennis Dietz says
I Been driving 46+ years accident free. That’s because I drive till I get tired or sleepy and then I stop sometimes only need three hours and wide awake and I drive again..I’ve done this my whole life accident free and have driven to prevent accidents a lot of times because I pay attention … I will continue to drive until I get sleepy and take a nap and and could care less about who’s trying to control me with logs to meet their specifications when everybody’s different they are brain dead stupid and can’t be fixed .. lawmakers or thieves .. I will drive my way safely and continue to do so .. electronica log or not I drive safely not buy electronics and stupid people‘s rules …And anybody that says you can’t do that with electronic logs that’s because of your company. I’m glad I’m not a puppet like so many
Brandon says
If you’re able to change anything on your “elog” that has to do with driving then you’re not on a true elog to begin with, you’re on an AOBRD. Which will go bye bye come December for you and you’ll be doing the elog polka like the rest of us. Don’t believe me just watch!
Kelly W says
I’ve used electronic logs since 2009 without much hassle until I started LTL reefer going east. Still get it done just be more proactive and vigilant.
I mostly agree with the 46 year driver. I’m good on the road with about 5.5 per night or day and some napping.
If the eld goes awry, I’ve got choices. I deal with it, relax and generate less revenue and profit. I decide to stick it out feasibly by buying older motor, no elogs then. My truck is 03 and nearly 1 million on an inframe 2012, 2 million total. I quit and use it to pull an RV. It’s paid for, work as good o rbetter than any pick up, no eld required. I just sell it all and find something else to do.
Joseph Cuppelman says
Dennis you are so right I’m retired now for two years and so glad I am I drove for o e company for 35 years accident free and one other company for 14 years accident free over 4 million miles no accident at all do t miss driving at all hope everyone to be safe transfer man
Greg says
Agree 100 %!!!
David Yassinsky says
Well said sir, I have been or for 30+ yrs and couldn’t agree with you more.
Sara says
So your not a puppet but then perhaps your the pin cushion poppit. I have driven almost as many years driver. Managed just fine. But it is what it is. The better career might very well be controlling driverless trucks. Those who have never driven a truck are learning that now. We will be historic preserved in a museum. Perhaps our trucks will become playground equipment. Or a Toyota.
Lady Doe says
The only way drivers are going to get real change. Is to go home and let the pencil pushers and computer nerds and government supply the world with what they need everyday. They just want you to think they care they don’t, and they have no clue what life is like out here on the road. FMCSA just keep screwing it up Everytime they make so call changes for drivers.
Michael C Harris says
Not to mention EPA and the lousy, emissions choked engines! Been home over a year now bring back my 15 speed & CAT! (never gonna happen ’cause autonomous trucks can run 24/7 and not be subject to ELD restrictions at all)
KG says
I am so glad, that in about 6÷8months I will be out permanently. After 20+ years I call it quit! Thank you Uncle Sam for the ELD, rule after rule, regulation upon regulation you showered me with lately and now I am all sane. You can have this job! O REFUSE to be big carriers steering wheel holder!
bruce says
When I first learned to drive a truck I pointed out to my driver manager that she was free to have me replaced whenever she chose to if she thought I was going to keep driving fourteen hours with a one hour lunch break. Yes, you read that correct, ONE HOUR. I combined to fifteen minute breaks with the lunch. Why? Because I am human, not a damn robot. Too many of you guys become glued to your seats chasing after pennies while listening to ol’ Rush and AM woefully untalented and uneducated radio talk show hosts than try understanding the importance of breaks and as long as they know they have a human robot in that seat it will only get worse.
ubetido says
Ohh my gosh you were so brave to tell her that !!!
Could you maybe explain the importance of breaks
being that I”m untalented and uneducated
Eddie says
Tell your dispatcher,”I am extremely fatigued” it’s best to send to them in a text.(in writing for the record)
Now you have put all the liability on them (the company) I have not found one yet willing to take that responsibility and FORCE me to continue.
Andrea Pena says
I agree with that to get rid of Elogs because it is not an accurate account for what you actually do it just keeps on ticking regardless if you are actually driving, off duty or at the dock unloading. The written driving log gives you a more accurate actual day. There are cheaters who drive with or without elogs. Some truckers over work themselves and others are honest as my husband is. But your right the pressure that is put on to drivers is driven by the customer who wants their freight delivered yesterday. Ex:Pick up in Seattle Monday evening say 5:00pm deliver freight say in Arazona by 6am Wednesday that is clearly not enough time you run out of your hours. But the companies do not get fines and raised insurance premiums the driver does. Not even the owner of the company they work for get a blemish. Sa the company Nike says ” Just Do It” is the moto, dont get caught “Just Do It. Really
Ken Shattuck says
Iv been out here 32.years I think getting Reid of elog is best thing whut where they thinking to put e logs in truck
Santi Bailey says
I was violated the other day because I did a split and the computer said I had hours I took the breaks when it said to and everything then I made it to my delivery in centennial co and took a 8 and a half hour break in sleeper then went for a walk for a1 and a half hour walk and changed status to off duty for a total of 10 hours and 10 minutes went on duty did my trailer pick up and pretrip don’t know what I did wrong
Robert crawford says
Make the rules in the USA the same as Canada 13 hrs driving 14 working 8 hours sleep get rid of the 1/2 hr break!!!!
Barbara Evanoff says
Before I stopped driving, I spent 15 years as an OTR, company then O/O.
The largest waste of resources this industry has is unpaid detention by either the shipper or receiver. In one month I averaged 30 hours plus a week! (In 2009). My fuel. And waiting for dispatch in high freight lanes sometimes again, 30 hours!
I switched to dedicated and the detention and wait for dispatch were neck to neck in time.
The HOS, from 03-09 suited me. The best was the 36 hour restart. I could pull over, take a nap, eat, shower, and relax. No, I have not gotten back into a truck since Elog became a law.
2.5 Million Safe Miles.
Keith E says
You said that right brother trucker
Joseph Eak says
All of us truckers, OTR and local need to get together and shutdown for a week and bring the whole industry to a grinding hault. Then we will have there attention and get real solutions. We have the upper hand if we all unite. Just my opinion.
Roderick says
That’s what we need but you got a lot off good buddies brown noses out their that love their boss to much
Fred says
Y’all want to bitch about the HOS why if it is that bad shut down and you will see it all change I been a Owner Op for 46 years
Kevin says
Agreed!!! Definitely not a truck driver!! Has no clue, plan all you want but that crystal ball gets really fuzzy throughout the day.
Bobby Green says
What’s just plain stupid is!, You cant even pull into a rest area without a DOT officer sitting waiting to issue safety violations, which surpose to be a safe spot to stop…
Norbert Siewert says
My biggest problem is the 14 hour rule. No other log issue has caused me more trouble. I have had more suspensions due to that repugnant rule than any other. Often, a customer holds me in detention for hours. Then, when the truck is unloaded, I am required to vacate the premises. Never mind that I am now out of hours. I cannot legally drive, but am required to do so. I would love to punch the DOT, my employer, and the customer in the face. All three are guilty of absolute contempt!
Mark R Adams says
You are right on.i am driving for 3 years.Before i was a customer.i always treated the drivers with respect.There are to many voices being heard but the men and woman who are true professional are not being heard.its not the elds that are the issue its the people who are telling us how they need to be used.Change the 14hr clock.Let the truckers control thier sleep.Stop treating the drivers like they dumb foolish people because they are not.All of fhe folks who are trying to change this industry should know how to drive a semi.They need to remeber with out us drive the country who stop.May God bless all of the men and women who dedicate thier lives to this profession .
Charles Cunningham says
The 70hrs should b for driving ,get rid of on duty for vehicle insp fueling loading unloading once home after a week or two mandatory 34 restart min sitting at a truck stop taking your mandatory 34 is not a break if I am made to b on duty it should b paid ,and no 14 hr rule or 30 min break ,getting rid of 14 hr rule will allow driver to take a break when needed
Jr says
Detention is a joke .Drivers getting all the regulations how about the people that kill our 14 hour clock taking their slow time loading or unloading.us.Detention should be $500 an hour after the 1st hour.YES.!!
Pedro says
The biggest problem is the customers we deal with, shipper and receiver taking there sweet time to load and unload like there time is the only one that counts.
"Tha Dazzling Driver" says
I agree with “stopping that 14 hour clock”!
Jim Krugh says
Nothing good has happened in this industry since deregulation. Everybody seems to know more about this job than the people that actually do it. Can’t wait for retirement, not worth it any longer.
Rodney W Rufenacht says
I agree
Rodney W Rufenacht says
Get rid of the 14 hour clock and the accidents will decrease in my opinion, all these inexperienced drivers racing the clock puts everyone in harm’s way
Rodney W Rufenacht says
Get rid of the 14 hour clock and all of these inexperienced drivers racing the clock will slow down and maybe the accident rate will diminish somewhat also
Charles Atherton says
I don’t need someone else to control my day my life or my business! I will still run the way I always have which is safe and gets the job done. The Elogs have made the hiways very dangerous because drivers have to race the clock and can’t have the flexibility to do what is required. This is not a one size fits all business. The 30 minute break should be eliminated. Sleeper split 5 &5 and ability to stop
The clock for at least 3 hours as needed to get our jobs done the way we see fit. All trucks should be required to be compliant with electronic logging regardless of the age of the truck.
Rob says
The E LOGS need to go the clock never stops.Who ever came up with this BS isn’t a driver 8 months I am DONE
juan mendoza says
Do away with half hour break, it’s useless. Needed, stopping clock when tired, stop forcing us driver’s to drive tired. Keep hour split, as needed, for driver discretion only, not COMPANY’S.
Mark Tannehill says
Until the whole industry (manufacturing, shipping, consignees)any operations that rely on the American Trucker for ANY needs. Understand, that is, get on board with OUR rules and regulations, HOS will not work for all, hence fines, accidents, detention that is NOT Universal. We are over regulated and the private citizens whom we SHARE the road with do not even have a clue. More emphasis needs to be put on the driving public as to what THEY need to be aware of. We have so many disillusioned people with licenses to drive, they ACTUALLY think that because They cut us off and get hit by a commercial vehicle, we are to blame. Yes, we need to educate Community, Commercial Carriers, Manufacturers , anyone who will listen. Please, do not put it all on our backs as truckers. If we are to work, we need safety and flexibility. After all, when I am asked to put on a reflective vest and hard hat, safety shoes, glasses to use a breakroom or bathroom (when a available!) I have to abide by their rules. Fair is fair. When can OSHSA verses DOT/ FHA/FMCSA. come to terms with each other. Maybe Freight rates and O/O as well as company drivers wages may finally go up after 25 years. Thanks for my opportunity.
Jamie Sanders says
My Elog don’t make me feel any safer like they promised. Totally a bunch of BS, it was always about the money. Just not the money in the driver’s pocket. The rates are still low, they try to solve it with fuel surcharges but that fluctuates alot. Why cant loads just pay like they should. It’s like these customers aren’t making any money off what your hauling or something.
David Pierce says
Not to sound unreasonable or better than anyone out here.
I’ve been here for 50 years , many millions of miles ,
It’s not bad planning that is the problem. It is the start time , many more trucks start there day about the same time.
You plan your trip when your time to stop arrives, there may not be any parking for a hundred miles.. seeing is believing. You plan to stop in Winslow Az. At 1800 the only problem is so did thousands of other Drivers , parking on the shoulder the freeway one after the other for many miles , having to go to the end of the line causes hours of service violations.
Hours of service is the problem, not trip planing.
DC holding for hours is another major problem. Punishing for a job well done. For being early. Or for being delaid.
The removal of a job well done is a major negative.
Forcing a driver that only sleeps 5 hours a day to another 5 hours in a sleeper with conditions less comfortable than a jail cell . It is in-human. It’s know wonder good drivers leave this work they are treated like the lowest life form on the planet.
I have loved this work and have hatred it with all the new that really has harmed this great job.
MRC says
Whatever
Timothy Taylor says
It’s good to have logs period,some drivers need logs because they don’t know when to take a break from driving.And paper logs will not be thrown out because electronic devices will fail so when people say no more paper logs ,it’s really not true,,to be straight,elogs is for their assessment behind these computers while we’re busting our assessment and that’s the bottom line
Stroker says
I am a 39 year veteran of the trucking industry. I am also a 4th generation trucker in my family. I have also now driven over 4 million accident free miles. I can’t remember the last time I was even asked to see my log book let alone any violations. Why do we even have to run the damn thing. I personally invite every single one of the law makers to come spend a day with me and see not only all the idiotic events that happen aroundme in a days time but also how a professional does it. I run a 38 year old Peterbilt that anyone is welcome to dot it at any time they wish. Why dont you come get some input and pointers from someone who knows the industry and has lived it for a lifetime.
H Pender says
All this talk about a pause button it’s crazy. Like the driver say u can’t even stop and take break because of the ELD. It all need to be done away with. The rules was find before the 14 hours thing and the ELD is way over the top,but they always talking about safety, how can u be safe when u are racing with the ELD all the time?
Colin Higgins says
Why should all drivers be in the same category as long distance drivers. City work is totally different. Drivers are home everynight(well 90%) and get plenty of rest. Maybe there should be a separate set of rules that could be set out. Also speeds governed at 105 is ridiculous it slows car traffic and creates road rage, at least 110 for highway drivers with sleepers and 105 for city drivers in day cabs. I think you should listen to the drivers before anything is dine by someone who has never been in a truck. Thank you
Melvin says
I think what needs to happen is to do away with ELOG’S and just do a 11hr drive time with a 10hr break before you start another 11hrs of drive time plain and simple
Kelvin crudup says
We should be paid for all hours of service being gone from home. I’m sick of all these daggone regulations. We drivers aren’t making a great wage. I’m tired of it.
Gary says
I say let’s stop letting the government run private businesses, there is insurance to cover any incidence that may occur with that business.
Ron kinnas says
I don’t mind elogs cause keeps you in check with 30 min break and what’s left for your 14hr day. Been driving 25 yrs and to put it frankly. I don’t want to be on the road more than 14hrs. Iam paid hourly and have to stay in a hotel twice a week. And why would you wanna work more than 14? That’s a serious fatigue issue and threat to others on the road. How about put these idiots who make these rules on the road and live out of a truck or hotel and see what they think!!
Hillard Dawson says
It is just to clustering no matter where you go and takes way to long to get loaded and unloaded and set appointments that eat up your clock waiting on nothing but the time. Something has to be done. When you can not park on property and truck stops big enough for you to park and there is just nowhere to go and you are scheduled to break after your 8 and traffic is so bad you can not move. Like California, S.C , N. C, Florida, Jersy and several others. Something has to be done
Richard says
I suggest stopping the 34 hr restart. Just make it a 11 hr daily break instead of 10.The 34 hr restart is unnecessary. It takes up parking and unnecessary days away from home. Plus stuck in the truck for 34 hrs sucks .Yes love the idea of able to stop your clock, especially at shippers and receivers that take hours to load and unload.
LOUIS PETRY says
just get it done, it doesn’t fix the problems that the drivers are having with the rules, the bureaucrats refuse to listen to the drivers. The problem is you can’t get enough drivers cassette home or even one full week, that would wake everybody up. Anybody who thinks e-logs are going away, should probably find a new line of business to be in.
Josie says
I agree with that! Instead, it is the suits and ties in DC who make the rules, but have no freaking clue! They all need to go on the road with a driver for a week and see for themselves!
Russ says
The DOT needs to allow us to drive up to 12 MPH in on-duty mode before the ELD puts us into drive mode. None of us asked for billions to be spent on installing self-driving sensors because idiots refuse to put their phone down. We asked for a 3rd lane to be installed on all interstates so that we can get around those idiots when they rearend somebody.
Jay says
Here’s a comment for you get rid of the stupid e-logs that make you drive when you want to sleep and make you sleep when you want to drive and give as professional drivers credit for having a brain that we don’t want to kill ourselves any more than we want to kill anybody else. Or put every job in the world on e logs and set it up show the retarded four-wheelers they’re always playing on their smartphones and traffic are not even allowed on the road when the big rigs are rolling.make shippers and receivers get on e-logs to be penalized if they do not load/unload on time in a timely manner.
Jay says
Here’s another comment for you. Make vehicle manufacturers and cell phone manufacturers program their equipment so that the phone will not function anytime it is within an arm’s reach 3 feet of the rim of the steering wheel.do that for every single vehicle out there if you want to reduce accidents it’s a bigger problem now than drinking and driving. All you’d have to do is put a sensor in steering wheel the technology is already available. My latest and greatest elog update showed gafter driving from New York to Michigan I had 2 hours and 14 minutes left on my 14 and 11 hours left on my drive! GO FIGURE
Sergio Valenca. says
11 Hrs Driving splitting whenever convenient for a Driver.
5 Hrs On duty not Driving.
8 Hrs Sleeper Berth.
I should be conform with this.
22 years Driving ok.
Now I feel obligated and forced to this new
System.
Jay says
Not to discredit Strokers comment or disrespect him in any way but the fact is a rookie driver knows more than the idiots that are making the rules. I agree although I’ve only been driving for 12 years with zero accidents it is only by the grace of God that the elog has not forced me into an accident. I have never had anyone look at my log book paper or E. We need all drivers to sign up on the “take a hammer to your elog day” and do it and that will be the end of elogs for the entire industry. After all the law states if your elog malfunctions it is okay to go on paper.
saini says
Need to eliminate elogs
Dave says
Allow Drivers to drive up to 12hrs in a day and go from a 14hr. Clock to a 15hr clock
and make a day off mandatory after 6 days straight on duty
james says
a pause in the clock ?. that is progress . its all on the driver tired rest ! not tired sleep ! . you hold the wheel .
james says
ATA = big company frieght club . civilian motoring public = clueless . it all comes down to $$$$.
TEX says
I feel we should let hard working Americans work. Let us get the job done without being forced to be lazy and rest when we have work left we can safely complete. As drivers we have all trained and assumed the responsibility to operate heavy equipment, haul heavy loads, drive through rain, snow and winds with the main objective of getting the job done with pride while protecting the equipment, goods being transported, and people around us. When you take pride in your job, you also know when you are getting tired and are not giving your absolute best, so you rest to be productive the next day – without somebody forcing it, because we are adults.
The hard workers of yesterday’s work ethic are getting fewer, we need to support those who prefer to do the hard jobs others don’t want. We should reward the drivers with 250,000, and 500,000 and 1,000,000 miles of safe driving, not restrict them. They are what makes America what it is.
At the same time, we all understand there will be those who abuse the system. The elogs could be used as a reprimand for recklessness, possibly similar to a car breathalyzer for DUI. After a reckless violation of a determined degree, the reprimand could be mandatory elog for 6 months. And maybe a 3 strikes rule for the ones who just don’t take pride in what they do.
But I worry we are Forcing hard workers to just take it easy and do less. Most of us don’t sleep 10 hours on any given day of our life, we prefer to be productive citizens, it makes us happy, it’s what we live for!