Just A Story

Discussion in 'Road Stories' started by Doma, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. Doma

    Doma Light Load Member

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    Not sure if this is the right place or not,just kind of looking for some input or maybe even a cuff to the head for being so naive. Anyhow I have been in trucking all my life as my family owned and operated a small company for many years up untill 5 years ago when we finally got smart and shut the doors. At that point I found my self trying to find somewhere where I would be happy, I have worked for a large flat bed carrier as a regional driver, here on the east coast,which worked out well untill the whole company had wages cut by almost half, as I looked for new work a family member of mine still in the industry suggested I talk to a gentleman from a F.B. carrier who used all owner op's here in the north east, which I did. I was told that if I purchased a truck and worked for him I would average a certain number of dollars per year, it was not miracle money but I would be earning a paycheck which was reasonable here in the Northeast.I went and bought that truck and got right to work. First let me say, and I am not pulling my own chain here but I want You to have a feel for my work ethic, I have been driving TT's for 18 years now,I am accident and aside form a seatbelt violation,violation free for thoes years. I worked 15 to 18 hour days on a salary to try to keep our bussiness alive and have done everything under the sun in the industry. What I am trying to get across is that I am not afraid to work and for lack of better terms come from the old school of transportation.
    Things went well with this company for about three months, and at that point died to a point of only getting a load maybe 2 times a week, being stranded after unloading 300 miles from home a number of times and paying a very high rental fee for a trailer. Times are tough and I understand that, so I found new work and gave a notice of a week to the gentleman and returned my trailer at the end of that time. I brought my trailer back to their main facility and upon doing so was approached by one of the actual owners of this comapany,and was asked why I was leaving,I explained the situation to him that I could not afford to run only 2 times a week make a truck payment,and all the other goodies that go along and also support my family. He understood and asked if I would give it another go with them if I was kept busy and making money,sure I said.
    It has been 3 months at this point since that day, again at first things went well for a couple of weeks, then came the 150 to 200 mile dead heads between loads which I never complained about,even though they dont consider this travel time when scheduleing delivery times for the load you are after, I found my self at times, many times,,OK all the time, running 18 hour day's which is fine I really dont mind it but keep in mind this is for a 450$ run, dead head miles are unpaid here and there is a strange system of the FSC being totaled to the rate before your precentage is figured in, boy if we knew that when we were brokering loads instead of giving all that money to the driver brokered to, we might still be in bussiness, sorry I digress, at this point three months in to my "trial" of being kept busy I find my self constantly under loads which I wait anywhere from 5 to 28 hours for, I do a ton of jobsite deliveries which as You know can take hours to get off,if not that long to get You in. Again I understand all this but have never been paid a cent of dentention since I have been signed on here. And now the funny thing of not receiving a settlement since mid november has popped up. I wonder if this is because I have piped up a bit that I am unhappy with the situation, keep in mind only 3 weeks ago one of their head dispatchers was prasing Me for being one of the best and eaisest going drivers he has ever dealt with, now that guy won't even give me the time of day when I call, before the lull in settlements the ones I was getting were either short a run or so depleated due to trailer rental they were usless, Needless to say I am done at this point, I am still getting no answer at all where my past 3 now 4 settlements are and I have not had a run over 450 miles in over a month, its all deliver at 7 travel 100 to 200 miles to pick up the next one drive all nite to go maybe 300 miles for a 7 am delivery. I have interviewed for a state job and things look well with that. I will let the bank take the truck, and start right away to fix my credit, I have not mentioned any names intentionally because this story is very young and i have not actually offically quit yet.And does it really matter who. I am telling this story not because it is a revelation, it is not the sad fact of the matter is this is a common one, bussiness profiting from owner operators one way or the other, all sorts of tactics and policy's even language they use to squeeze what is possible from owner op's, Let it be a guide to thoes who are looking to sign on, remember even if You are quoted a yearly estimate of what you will be taking in, they will tell you thats what everyone els here is doing, Go find everyone els and ask to make sure, ask if they are renting a trailer, ask if they actually own that truck they are in or is it owned by a dispatcher and they are being paid to drive it. Ask where there work is comming from or where your work will come from dedicated accounts they have or mostly just stuff pulled off a board picked by the vultures 20 times over. Companies are robbing o'os to the teeth, take a look at some of the towing and recovery stories out there! You will be appalled, and I see very little or no protection for the o'os. What You will hear is Hey! You signed on, if You don't like it leave, it's not all that easy and You all know what I am saying, I hate pissing through jobs, I want to stay somewhere work hard enjoy myself and be compensated fairly for it, and when I am in the wrong I can take responsibility for it, hmmm, funny word Responsibility.
     
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  3. LavenderTrucker

    LavenderTrucker Medium Load Member

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    I did not grow up in or even around the industry... However, I have always wanted to be a truck driver... I remember when I was little and going on famiy road trips I was so facinated with all the semi trucks on the road... AI knew that one day I wanted to drive and own one...
    I am like you... more of the old school... My desire is to work hard for a small company, learn the ropes and gain experience, then buy my first truck and continue work for them as an O/O... For me, my desire to buy my first truck and be an O/O is like wanting to buy you first home....
    For years I had dreamed, desired and planned to become a trucker, work ard move along my journey to my first truck and being an O/O in my 40's...
    Well, now I am in my mid 40's, went to a private school and got my CDL A with all endorsements... However, I really want to avoid the big bottom feeder training scams and troubles... Many of the smaller companies are at the mercy if the insuance companies and hiring a new driver with 0 varifyable experience in difficult for them.
    I know enough to know that if I go with a big bottom feeder training company who is going to sell me on their lease operator scam, I won't learn the ropes and how to be a successfull O/O, I will be lucky to survive let alone thrive....

    I am old school... I can't buy into or sell out to that whole big company bologna.... I mean, if I got a job at a printing company I would be a fool to think that is just six months I would know enough to open up my own... Or thinking that because I am a good waitress I could run my own resturant.... But that is what the industry is selling now... go to school for a few weeks, ride with a trainer for a month or so, lease a truck and become a trainer.... The only good thing I see about those lease scams is leasing automatics so you can hold on to your ### before you lose it....
    Well, sorry for ranting... I do desire the old tried and true method of hard work + time = experience...
    I already know I lack the experience and knowledge to be an O/O... but even with all my lack of experience I can see the politics, hoopla and crap that O/O's are having to put up with...
    I am inexperienced, but I am also an optimist... I do feel that those big bottom feeders are running hemselves into the ground... and the smaller better run fleets and companies will weather the storm...
     
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  4. Doma

    Doma Light Load Member

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    I hope You are right,although there a few larger fleets that have good management, I was foolish to do what I did,I put trust in the numbers he gave me and I #### know better,there are many very successful OO's out there all got to that point with some amount of plain old hard work and a larger amount of luck, sometimes landing that account or customer that You dream of is being in the right place at the right time, where I went wrong was not taking a good investigative look at who I was signing on wth, I took the word of one man,we had allot in common with many similar likes, he also has a very good and profitable history as a dispatcher with this company, well in to six figures some years.The problem was and I was not aware of, that all his eggs were in one basket and if it broke we were doomed, and it did, this is a perfect example of asking the right questions and doing Your homework. Although please keep in mind that I was guided by a family member to go and speak with him so my guard was down,..The part that steemed me, is that I fell for the will ya stay if this happens part, this is a mid size carrier with all oo's I am nothing but a number and aside from that 5 minute conversation with an owner that day I was quitting, I will continue to be an number..
    By no means did I want the story to be a sob poor me story, it is not I can pay off my truck if I desire, for that matter I can keep it in my yard and not really feel the dent, at one time we had that dream customer actually we had a few, many years of hard work on the road and off paid off dividends, and continues to do so, and so is the point of the story, I see guy's and just experienced it, myself that do work hard and have put in their hard knocks, have the backgrounds to prove it,keep their equipment nice dont ride 3 inches from a slow 4 wheelers bumper in the middle lane, and so, on being taken advantage of constantly by theese companys. If one young guy sees this and gets even the slightest bit of info from it,but enough to save him then I am happy,
    What worries me is that an experience like this could put a good guy out of commission not just with the truck but his whole family and that is not fair, it's too bad were not all on the same side.
     
  5. LavenderTrucker

    LavenderTrucker Medium Load Member

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    When I was in school just about to graduate there was this guy who was offering what at first sounded great... He as an Experienced O/O would ta you under his wng, train you and get you started as an O/O...
    I met with him and here was th deal... all I had to do was finance a truck and tailer and put up $5,000... Insurance $1,500 down payment. authority $80 reinstate,hvut $550,signs $200. Ifta decals $10. plates we have 30 days to get the plate money which is about $1,800 for truck and about $20 for trailer. Then we need $2660 in a account for breakdowns. For that he would train me and we would split everything 50/50 for about a year or until was ready to go on my own andhe would get another truck and trainee, and if I wanted to I could help finance that ad get 10 to 20% of the cut on te second truck and start becoming a fleet owner...
    Well, I passed on it... But anoher young guy jumped on it... He sold his car and some stuff to raise the $5,000 and down payment on a truck and trailer...
    Well, it started of slow and the guy assured it would get better and he would more than recoupe his money... Then things got bad and e had to borrow money fom his dad to make the truck and traler payments and other expenses... things remained bad and he had to toss in the towel... The guy sold his bill of goods to another newbie who signed to take over the truck and trailer payments...
    I am glad I didn't take the bait... he made it sound good... I paid $5,000 for month of school... why not pay $5,000 for a year of training from an experienced driver... ad if I plan on becoming an O/O why not train on my own truck, the truck I would be driving as an O/O for years...
    I don't know if he was sincere nd tings just didn't go well or if he was taking advantage of newbies with the O/O dream...
     
  6. MUSTANGGT

    MUSTANGGT Road Train Member

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    You did the correct thing LT. This guy is obviously preying on the inexperience and gullibilty of others.
    I found it interesting that all the monetary investment would come from you in exchange for his wisdom and experience.
    Were he an actual capable businessman, he would be doing this on his own, keeping all the profits for himself.
    Nobody goes into a business of any sort with the intention of making other people wealthy.
    Another item of interest for future reference. A 50/50 split does not work when it comes to trucking.
    Two people cannot make a decent living on one truck. I made a decent living for about ten years as an owner-operator, but if I had given up 50% of my earnings to someone else, I wouldn't have lasted ten weeks, let alone ten years.
    Note: Most legitimate companies paying on a percentage basis offer 70-80% to the truck owner. Notice I said "truck owner", not someone involved in a lease scam. The line has become blurred lately with so many calling themselves owner operators.
     
  7. LavenderTrucker

    LavenderTrucker Medium Load Member

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    I am glad I decided not to take his offer. I went with a small local company and they have treated me very well. Since I had expresed an interest in flatbedding, and with a few trucks being damaged by hitting deer and other things, the company wasn't going to have a truck for me, being the rookie, the trucks had to go to the experienced drivers who had been with the company longer. However, instead of just laying me off, which I would of understood, the ower actually took it upon himself to make calls and use his network and got me on with a small flatbed company. I will be trained by a very experienced driver, he has been driving for over 15 years.
    I am very excited, we will begin rolling after the holidays.
    One cool thing, he drives a long nosed pete... I have always wanted to drive one of those... The pay and benefits are great, but, the training I will receive more than make up for it. I know not everyone feels that way, but if I am in trucking for a career and want to be a success, getting good training is important. So, my focus has always been on going where I will be trained right by experienced drivers.
    Also, as I stated above, to have a boss who cares and treats you good is another bonus. My boss knew I would be drivng a long nosed pete and that I liked them so he gave me a peterbilt belt buckle for chistmas...
     
  8. MUSTANGGT

    MUSTANGGT Road Train Member

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    Good for you. One key to sucess is surrounding yourself with people more knowledgeable than you are.
    Having owned a couple, I'm partial to the 379 Petes myself.
     
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