Confused about hos for "locals".

Ooooops! You mean the HOS rules!

 

Driving to get your truck with a personal vehicle is personal conveyance and is not recorded. Your 14 hour day doesnt begin until you are on company property and or signed in (unless using a time card)

 

Hell, being local is as simple as it gets. I’m a Mon - Fri driver. Get in my truck and 6:00 am or so and usually home by 3:00 - 4:00.

I log on duty when I get in my truck and it stays there (or on the drive line) all day until I park.

Easy as it gets!

 

In this example it does start the clock. If you are not you are falsifying logs.
From 395.2 Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (eCFR)

On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

Now, of course, there is the bit about being relieved from duty by the motor carrier. That has to be true, not just claimed. I.E. if you can't go to the restaurant down the road and grab breakfast if you wanted to, it doesn't count.

As for commute, that's not counted ever. Either in a pov for locals or even in a cmv for the otr guys.

 

So your saying if i show up to haul fly ash and there are no trailers ready so i stay in my van and sleep an hour i need to log that on duty. Where as an OTR can sleep in the yard all might not go on duty till there are empty trailers and be able to run more

 

Did you miss the part where I explained the released from duty? If the carrier says you have to sit around waiting on the trailer, that's waiting to be dispatched. So on duty. If they don't care where you are or if you are, in fact, even awake then that's off duty as they released you.
You know, just like the regs I posted states.

 

So if you use a time card, what do you do first, punch in or go on duty? Seems you can’t legally do one before you do the other. It’s a paradox!! LOL

 

If the person is home at night. They cant punch in as the time card machine isnt at home.
My hunch is the OP wants to use the driving from home to work as time on duty. Good luck on that.