Good evening folks. I've just been offered a good rate from the above broker. TOO GOOD, if you know what I mean.
So I checked them out and they've had their bond for about 7 weeks. They started this year.
So I told the broker that I would need to be paid on delivery. He said he couldn't, but he offered 3-day quick pay at 2.5%. Pretty good. So I said that he would have to put in the ratecon that payment is due in full in 3 days. He said, "No problem."
But I still have that uneasy feeling. What do you guys think?
Morningstar Trucking, MC #1550663
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by gekko1323, Jul 24, 2023.
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I'm not looking to roll the dice. I just got burned for $3300 eight weeks ago. I will receive an answer from the bond company in about another 21 days or so. This load is a $5500 offer for about 1750 miles. Less than 25,000 lbs. I get that brokers need to start somewhere. But in the beginning, they need to play ball, if they expect the carrier to play ball.
If I'm starting out as a broker, I would understand a carrier's trepidation. So if he wants to get paid COD, I would appease him.Lite bug Thanks this. -
3 double brokering reports in the last few days.
Fraudulent activity reports.
I'd pass on them.Lite bug, Siinman, Short Fuse EOD and 6 others Thank this. -
Thank you. I suspected as such when I got a link on Amazon Relay from Oshea Transport, instead of Morningstar.
So let me ask you a hypothetical...I go and pick up the load and I realize that they are not the broker. What can I do then? Call the real broker? Or demand payment from the fraudulent one before I deliver? Amazon DOES NOT regularly pay over $3.15 a mile. At least not for long haul. So it can be safe to assume that the original broker got less than would warrant offering a $5500 rate. Am I getting the gist now? Is this how the scam starts?Last edited: Jul 25, 2023
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I think whether the rate con says payment due in 3 days or 30 days doesnt really matter. He doesnt intend to pay any amount at anytime it seems. I know its tempting and disheartening at the same time.....
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Always just call the real broker. Cut out the scammer all together. One of 2 things is happening, the scammer is offering you less than the real broker is paying ( in which case you call him and get more $0 or the are getting paid much less and intend to make off with the money from your hard work. In that case you'll be reaching out to the real broker anyway to get paid and will be taking it for whatever rate was agreed upon ( could be 3000).
You could post all of the MC#s and send me the scammers rate con and we can blow them up. But with 3 FG reports, looks like its already happening.
Best for you is to run away as fast as you can and leave them a bad reveiw on DAT so other can watch out.Old_n_gray, Lite bug, Siinman and 2 others Thank this. -
So I'm a little confused trying to understand the steps in the scam. But my lizard brain has almost got it figured out.
But now I see a new monkey wrench in the picture. Oshea Transport is a carrier, not a broker. At least that is what I saw on SAFER. So who is the original broker? Amazon or someone else? Oshea has the Amazon account because I got the link from them. So how did Morningstar get ahold of this? Are they in cahoots with Oshea, or is Oshea oblivious? -
Yes, but if the 3 days lapse without payment, I can then file on their bond. Can I not?nikmirbre Thanks this.
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and FYI OSHEA TRANSPORT INC MC# 1461216 is also being reported for double brokering.
Niamh Oshea out of Aurora, CO with an address based out of the UPS store. Sounds legit.Siinman, Short Fuse EOD, D.Tibbitt and 2 others Thank this.
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