Are 2 zinc 3/4 bolts strong enough to hold ICC/DOT bumper/tube?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mhlvc, Nov 4, 2023.

  1. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    Have you considered "Duck Tape"?
     
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  3. Ridgeline

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    pretty accurate but ...

    1 - the coatings on the bolt have nothing to do with the strength of the bolt. Be it zinc-plated, zinc-coated, cold galvanized or hot galvanized coating, the coating won't diminish the tensile strength or diminish the shear strength.

    2 - Anodizing is a process of sealing aluminum surfaces. You are thinking about what is commonly called the Blacking or black oxidizing process.

    That said the ICC bumper and its components are to withstand a 20,000 lb force. Given that many of these bumpers use a minimum of four bolts to hold it onto the frame/body of the truck, Grade 2 bolts can be used, Grade 5 is better, and of course, Grade 8 is the best. Failure of the bumper, and the doubt that any of the inspection officers have any clear knowledge of what the differences are, I would say you are safe in using grade 2 bolts.
     
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  4. mhlvc

    mhlvc Light Load Member

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    Im more of a zip-tie guy
    Im never replacing an icc tube again, especially 1 that is 15 years old looks like, the old bolts became a part of the bracket, had to cut the old tube, drill holes for the new tube, took me a whole day since I didnt have the right tools. so I wanted to do it right - grade 8 bolts it was. that thing aint going anywhere (wish i had a before pic)
     

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    Cadmium plating^. I think he might have been referring to cadmium plated bolts.
     
  7. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    No cadmium plating is different process and it leaves the bolt silvery coating on them.

    blackening is when the bolt has a chemically oxidized surface. If done incorrectly, it can lead to weakening of any surface treatments to strengthen the fasenter.
     
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  8. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    I believe your speaking of phos and acid finished bolts... Very corrosion resistant under most any natural weather conditions.
     
  9. Ex-Trucker Alex

    Ex-Trucker Alex Road Train Member

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    Yes, but zinc-plated bolts are often just plain old 'mild' steel, which has enough strength when new, but not after corroding for a few years..



    Actually, there has been a big industry-wide program to REMOVE cadmium from plating; anything that is RoHS-compliant is cadmium-free. Only parts with a specific callout for certain military platings use cadmium at all anymore. This has all changed in the last 20 years.
     
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  10. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Grade 8s are what you're looking, I don't buy anything else other than a few smaller stainless bolts for doodads.
     
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  11. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    My Lowe's has grade 8 bolts, but they're in the special drawers at the end of the bolt isle not with the rest of the bulk fasteners. Not sure I have ever needed something as big as 3/4, but I have bought 1/2 in grade 8s there before.
     
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