Fuel tank strap - Houston, we have a problem

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  1. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    We have always seated the tanks in with a jack and block of wood. Run straps up without any weight on them so you can wiggle them in to get a straighter run on them and have less stress on the rear pins and T-bolts. Like @Big Road Skateboard said double nut them with a good washer so they don't get loose. I have many tank mounts and straps that date back to the 1960’s and have also noticed that the ones rhat are welded all the way to the end of the fold usually have a little stress crack. The ones like your rear one that leave a1/4” or so don’t. The older 1960’s thru early 80’s 351,352,358,359 straps are a thicker gauge aluminum too.
     
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  3. blairandgretchen

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    @lester and I got the tape out and they're close to dead nuts parallel. Might be an optical illusion from the photo?

    You're right - the drivers side I replaced the webbing, the passenger side (pictured) we did not.

    Yes - it's in a bugger of a spot to get any torque specs on.

    The ones that came off - well, we cut off - were double nutted. The new straps come with flat washer and a Nylock nut.

    Thanks - I felt guilty about the new stacks and lack of polishing, so I got to hand polishing. Yes - I'll horse deal with you on the chicken light surrounds if you have a box. Most all of mine need replaced.

    SD state trooper pulled me over because they'd received a few 911 calls about me - I had my CB on all day long, and that's how I found out the driver side had broke.

    No room to put an impact on- these were hand tightened. Oil- I don't think was used.

    Problem I have now too - tanks are close to full, I need to get the situation sorted - the drivers side had rolled a touch when Peterbilt put the new strap on, it makes a difference on fueling angle and hose connections.

    Starting to think I need either a third strap, or double straps.

    Good eye - I wondered how the weld construction affected the integrity.
     
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  4. blairandgretchen

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    Well, I went to "Poiter Beeelt" today and had a look at their straps for that VIN, and talked to Danny, who is an older fella, and had to remind the 'kid' "YEAH, IT'S AN OLDER TRUCK", and they had an aluminum strap, that appeared to be out of the factory, with stamped numbers. But only one.

    The ones I purchased in IA and SD were aftermarket, with blue protective layers to peel off before installation.

    I got to thinking, as it's a 28 year old truck, how the quality of metallurgy has changed in time, aftermarket parts, quality of aluminum stock, etc.

    Joplin PB only had one of the 'OEM' straps, so I sprang an extra few bucks for 2 stainless steel straps from newer models - the folds are riveted rather than welded. I'm figuring stainless steel has better 'metal memory' than aluminum.
     
  5. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Here is the stampings on the interior face of the strap they had available - aluminum.



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    Here's the part number of the tank straps I was supplied with, obviously an aftermarket part.

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  6. haz-matguru

    haz-matguru Road Train Member

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    Some ppl will just say screw repairing it correctly
     
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  7. Luwi67

    Luwi67 Heavy Load Member

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    I wanted to go from 2 straps per tank to four because I had a strap break on two separate occasions. Peterbilt wanted over $4,000 for 8 stainless traps and four frame mounts. I ended getting everything I needed off ebay used for $350 plus another hundred to Mcmaster for nice hardware.

    I removed the tanks and laid out a grid to properly locate the new mounting holes. Borrowed my friends mag drill and bored the holes, chamfered them and bolted everything back up. It was such a great project that has erased any worry of breaking a tank strap for the last 10 years. My 379 is a 97 and looks like it came from the factory with 4 straps per side.
     
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  8. Rideandrepair

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    I recall a friend of mine complaining about the Pete straps breaking. His had broken, luckily was able to put a ratchet strap on it without any damage to the tank. He’s owned 5 Pete’s that I know of over the years. Said it wasn’t the first time it’s happened. Claimed that’s the reason for the double straps. I thought the T bolt was the common weak point. I wonder why, they look the same as any. I highly respect his opinion. He’s helped me out with correct answers so many times. Things that no one ever heard of. Just ask him. His answer was usually “Oh yeah, happened to me once. Here’s how you fix it. Lol. He’s retired now. Reminds me of a funny story worth mentioning. He once bought a brand new KW cabover. Painted exactly like the BJ and bear Truck. Bobtailing home, not far from the Dealership, the drivers side windshield fell completely out. He drove back to the Dealership in the wind!! Lol. Imagine that!! Still makes me laugh.
     
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