Two years on at May

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  1. Lonesome

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    Maybe ask for a different DM?
     
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  3. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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  4. INRUT

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    Why is a DM looking for parking for you ?
     
  5. TigardTrash

    TigardTrash Bobtail Member

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    ####.

    I will say that my first six months were the hardest, after that it got WORLDS better.

    If you are having trouble getting the mileage you need/want you might ask someone like Tom or Danny how it is that you could improve that. That is how I quit being Costco four docks in a day boy- I asked what “I” could do to improve to get the mileage they had been talking about during orientation. Next thing I knew I was working another lane with regular runs to LA and a sketchy backhaul. It wasn’t perfect but it was good enough to suit me and my new Wife and the money hasn’t been terrible either, especially since I had a medical issue that kept me off for over a month! When I got back I still had the same truck, and after going through 3 ‘24 Caacadias in a row that were garbage I am now in the second newest truck in the fleet and this one has been flawless.

    I’d love to say that working there has been cake but that would be a lie, I spent a LOT of time sitting alone in the sleeper in such fine places as Cheyenne, Payette and Denver- including a LEGENDARY case of food poisoning Thanksgiving of ‘21 at the Love’s in Ontario, Oregon. I was alone, broke, miserable beyond belief and to top it off I had the trots so bad I ###### near soiled myself every time I ran for the bathroom!

    But I told myself that I wouldn’t quit, I wanted this and if it took some hard living to get what I wanted it would be worth it. Tom was my check ride and he said “where else can you get paid to look at scenery like this?” and it stuck with me. Instead of looking for greener grass I just put it down to paying my dues as the new guy and that has served me well this last two years when the pressure gets too much and I feel like quitting. I’m no longer an Entry Level Driver (ELD as they are called at May) and they pretty much just cut me loose and let me run so really the only fly in my ointment is the ###### backhauls and right now EVERYONE is hurting that way so I can’t really complain. I have a clean DAC, two level ones with NO deficiencies, a driving transcript so clean I could EAT off of it, no safety issues and in 2.5 months even the great Wally would hire me with over 250000 miles in 2.5 years of trouble free safe driving.

    So if I could share anything it is just that the grass is NOT greener, you just get a different coat of paint and some new idiot with hot dogs for fingers who will be eyeing you up with the driver facing camera and lecturing you about picking your nose or drinking coffee, and has about zero practical knowledge of what it takes to run freight outside of a spreadsheet. He and the Mega he stooges for will do their level best to make you think they are doing you a FAVOR by letting you hang your butt out for them driving their goods to and fro. When it gets too hot, expect counselings and crap on your references and your DAC, and then you will find that really, all the megas blow in almost exactly the same way- at least May doesn’t have a camera positioned to watch you and micro-manage you from a desktop.
     
  6. Saltyoldone

    Saltyoldone Light Load Member

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    You must have Brook for a DM. I was driving 9,000 to 12,000 miles a month with May until they switched my DM to her. Then it was phone calls at 10 hours and 1 minute asking why I wasn’t driving. Every load became ASAP loads but she would insist that I needed to be there when the dispatch said even if that was 2 days ago. Then what got me called in is when I tried to call her for the Load report and she told me to stop calling her. So I did. Some DM manager (name started with a K) forced me to drop a load for repower in Salem and set an appointment to come see him 3 days later. So after I cooled my heals for three days I showed up for my appointment on time and he made me wait for 2 hours in a side room. Then Mr K ( 6’ tall skin head with tattoos everywhere) started yelling at me. I started laughing and told him he’d have to do better than that because after 25 years in the military he was pitifully squeaking compared to some Chiefs I worked with. I left while he was still screaming when he grabbed my shoulder to prevent me from leaving I told him I’d be reporting him to HR. After I reported him I requested a load to Idaho where I turned in the keys and left for better waters. I don’t believe I’d have made it much longer unless they switched my DM. But the May god (said with an eyeroll) told me that wasn’t going to happen so I left.
    At the time May was only paying $0.38 a zip code mile so 10-20 miles of every trip was unpaid and the truck I drove was governed at 58.
    Yes, I left for better waters. Yes, I’m currently looking for another job. But that’s a different thread.
     
  7. NightWind

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    Great to hear a positive story about a semi large carrier. I hope you and your new wife enjoy the road, play with the puppy and most of all stay happy. I've been trucking almost 44 yrs and I STILL get excited and smile when I hear my truck start. Never worked a day as I love my world.
     
  8. FullMetalJacket

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    Sounds like you are having a pretty rough start. I am sorry to hear this, but it is common while you are trying to learn & figure things out.

    Low man on totem pole typically needs to deal with some junk at first till you gain some footing & experience.

    They may very well be trying some different things with you to see how you handle & how you start to grasp how things & hours work.

    Do have to agree you cannot maintain on $, but it is very beginning.

    First time I have ever heard of a dispatcher locating parking for a driver...? You're new & I realize it is difficult at times, depending on location & time of day.

    Would suggest a truck parking app such as Trucker's Path for parking locations. While the availability of parking may be debatable at times, it will definitely give you locations of anything around area to try.

    Hope things get better for you. Most likely, it sounds like it is the worst it is going to be for you. I am sure it will get nothing but better. Next up, dealing with shipper/receiver issues & breakdown issues. Promise, they are for sure next up to occur & you will need to learn to deal with in your own way.

    Also, realize market has been complete crap for some time now. Even for the large carriers, but for their locked in contracts. Add in all the #### weather where it appears you have been running as a new driver...... recipe for very low miles & paycheck.

    Heads up & best of luck to you. You are going through the hell most of us started with. It will get better. To your credit, sounds like you met some good folks when you started. Maintain those relationships. They could possibly help you out a lot in your start.
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  9. smokey12

    smokey12 Road Train Member

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    May is a great starter company, I started there and worked there for 5 years. The thing is after a while you are trading off the laid back style for more money. Its ok for a while.but as time goes by it.gets old. My main issue there was sitting between loads . Half the time you get empty and don't have a preplan till the next day... last I heard they were paying newbies 115 a day on that salary pay. That's great for the lazies who want to sit in their truck and play video games.
    Glad the OP.is still happy there, if it works.for u enjoy. May does have strong points, good equupment, a good shop and office folks, except.for a a certain person who was in safety on a power trip.
     
  10. Rolling 50's

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    I also started at May several years ago, but I didn't hang around longer than necessary. It wasn't only because of the pay either. But before I bash them I'll say what's good about May Trucking. First of all, the equipment is all in great shape, well-maintained late-model Cascadias. The maintenance shops are there for you, and they encourage you to let them address even the slightest problem. If you stop at one of their hubs for any reason, someone will probably check your tire tread while you're on the lot and tag you for new tires if it's low. At the main hub in Oregon I was even able to talk them into putting a bicycle rack on for me. They pay close attention to trailer maintenance as well.

    They also have a lot of freight. Some broker loads, some contracts, but they are in business to do business. They'll keep you busy. And frankly, they are pretty nice people overall. Also, their facilities are pretty nice, showers, laundry, food and beverages, all the usual things you need coming off the road for a short time, clean, comfortable, not disgusting and basic.

    Down-sides: Their entire business model is built around constantly hiring and losing brand-new drivers right out of driving school. AND ALSO crossing every T and dotting every I when it comes to economy and efficiency. They absolutely expect you to quit after 90 days because of the pay, so they will abuse you for those 90 days. My experience was basically a hub-to-hub tour of the country. They'd get me at a hub where they had a lot of drop-and-hooks to deliver locally and keep me in that area for a week doing local runs. Obviously that doesn't add up to many miles, you spend most of your day sitting in traffic in southern California or Portland or Chicago or Denver. When you complain they will give you a long run away from there, but as soon as you come within range of another hub they will suck you in again.

    They will also choke you out on miles once you start approaching their bonus levels. You can actually make decent money at May if you can squeeze enough miles out of them. But you can't, not as a newbie anyway. As soon as you start approaching the first tier of the bonus structure you suddenly notice they don't seem to require your services quite as much.

    Related to that is their fueling policies. The way their system is set up, they will literally send you hundreds of miles off-route just to save a few dollars on DEF. It won't take you long to realize that there is a disconnect between the fuel department and everyone else at May.

    I would hesitantly recommend May for a new driver. I certainly got in plenty of driving. And because they are constantly hiring brand new drivers, there is a decent training period leading up to actually hitting the highway with a load. Not many companies will hire brand-new drivers so May is good as any, in a lot of ways better than most. But they definitely earned the nickname "No-Pay May."
     
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  11. TigardTrash

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    Yeah they burn through new hire like running water.

    I don’t do most of what you said because I am in the dedicated fleet and have been since 6 months in so most of my experience is from that area, which is admittedly different then regular or 11 state fleet.

    I get 1000 mile paper runs- PDX to LA- with generally a soup or beer run for my backhaul. I got the Fleet Manager for my DM, and aside from an occasional Hell run up to UNFI from Brooks because some newb quit and left their load my life isn’t terrible. I NEVER do retail docks anymore, so no more 4 Costco's in a day because yes, they grind you in regular fleet and their model IS built on endlessly hiring newbs from School and replacing them once a week.

    I just somehow hacked it for 6 months because I wanted to learn as well as earn and when I asked the Driver Development guy where I could improve he recommended me for Dedicated so I short cutted the process.
    And now the market for drivers has gone sideways and even the Megas can be picky so even on our private forums there are drivers who have had to take a pay cut in CPM, so I feel pretty fortunate that not only have I NOT been asked to do that, I still get the .10 per mile bonus at 10k which my DM gets me to on a regular so all in all I am pretty happy with where I am at. Not trying to be a Company fan boy but they have done all right by me and so when I am asked to do cruddy stuff like a 120 mile hop to Centralia I do it, knowing my DM has my back and will keep me moving so as to make money. Especially since that was the run that put me over the miles necessary for bonus! I guess my whole point was it is what you make it, if you don’t have big expectations ( they DO call them recruiters for a REASON) and a willingness to learn and grow opportunities CAN be found. I never imagined I could learn as much as I have in the amount of time that I have been doing this, it seems so overwhelming when you start. But I have learned and although I won’t finish my driving time at May I appreciate the opportunities I was given and I ran with them.
     
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