Is what my manager asking me to do at yards & customer lot legal?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Dkenos, Oct 8, 2024.

  1. Dkenos

    Dkenos Bobtail Member

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    To get right to the point, my manager told me that when I'm at a yard and customer lots to NOT use the yard move on my ELD. Instead, she wants me to go off-duty and use creep mode (drive under 5 mph) so I can save time on my clocks. Most yards have a 10-15 mph speed limit, and in the case of today's yard, a bunch of drivers waiting behind me. I am only a year in, but I have a feeling this is not legal. I did take screenshots of the conversation for preservation, but I'm just wondering what I should do?
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Many of us do that on occasion. I know I have.
     
  4. Flat Earth Trucker

    Flat Earth Trucker Road Train Member

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    Just use yard move. You can edit that time, anyhow. And creeping around a yard at 4mph isn't safe when you have yard dogs and others whipping around looking for spots to pickup or drop their trailers.

    One shady request will follow another. For a dispatcher or company to be so concerned about your drive time that you need to save minutes is a bit concerning.
     
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  5. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    On the system I use you can not edit Yard move, as it relates to driving, might be the way Heartland Ex has the software configured. Same as can not edit the drive line.
    U normally just use yard move, If you accidently hit 5 mph it kicks you to driveline.
     
  6. dieselpowered

    dieselpowered Heavy Load Member

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    everyone sees this at truck stops and we all pretty much know what they doing. Even if its annoying for some us who are in a rush to get somewhere all comes to state of mind. You really don't shave much time off and theres a double-edged sword playing dumb games you tend to win dumb prizes and only takes one time to mess things up badly...
     
  7. FearTheCorn

    FearTheCorn Heavy Load Member

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    I know creeping is a thing, and I get it. Buut, when I am a big yard and these numb nuts are blocking other traffic creeping around, murder is definitely in my heart.
     
  8. silverspur

    silverspur Road Train Member

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    Record her telling you that and then get her fired. She's not your friend. She needs to go.
     
  9. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    That just shows that she has a fundamental misunderstanding of clock management. Even if you use every minute of your 11 hour drive time, you still have 3 more hours of on duty time available. Saving 5-10 minutes of that will almost never actually prove useful or necessary.

    I’m not saying that I NEVER use my entire 14 hour clock, but it’s exceedingly rare.
     
  10. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    Pretty typical of the compliance folks I dealt with, bunch of know nothing know it alls. They all do real well at their desks, and I was constantly in trouble with any I ever dealt with. They were NOT an outlaws friend. To be clear, I ALWAYS went real slow in a customers lot, so 4 mph doesn't sound unreasonable. If one is cutting it that close on hours, not sure how this could help.
     
  11. Jamie01

    Jamie01 Light Load Member

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    Unless you're creeping around for 10 consecutive hours, or you're already at 14 hours and doing this for a while before legit going off duty, I don't see how this helps. Any non-driving, including yard move, counts toward your 30 minute break. And to answer your question, no it's not legal.
     
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