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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by blairandgretchen, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Weight of tank is 19k.

    No straps on seams, no straps on openings or fill holes, no direct securement. No strap on the stretch because it creates a ‘hydraulic press’ effect.

    6 straps, 33,300 WLL.

    The older guy that hauls once a week out of there throws 5, his son throws 6 - so he threw 6 because they travel together.

    Theyre fragile to impact, and they take more pictures of the tanks than Princess Di ever had before they leave.
     
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  3. loudtom

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    I thought it was supposed to be 2 straps plus an additional for every 10 feet over 1100 lbs, so 8 minimum for a 73' piece. I might be wrong, though. I don't want you to do extra work, but don't want you to get a ticket, either.
     
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  4. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    No - you’re right, that is the regs.

    If a scale house were to pull me in and ground me over this issue, there would be a flurry of phone calls, and - if appeasement was necessary, some ‘dummy securement’ to leave the situation’ , to be removed minutes later.

    There’s some products that can be damaged by the ‘regs’ , this is one of them.

    2 more straps could be added, but neither would assist in the “2 in the first 10’, 1 every 10’ there after’ rule.
     
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  5. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    She still has to play ‘Visiting Angels’ health care for free for her Dad, so that may not happen for a while. But she’d love it I’m sure.

    As for ‘niche’ - it’s an interesting market. One supplier serves Costco, this one serves Buccees. I had to bid this one, but talking to the other driver - one guy that usually covers it had a stroke, maybe the reason the customer had to cover it.

    It’s like buying a pink Corvette. You think you’re the only one with one, till you see them EVERYWHERE.
     
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  6. fortycalglock

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    There is a part of the regs about special commodities and tying them down. For example, tower crane assemblies, precast concrete, etc. There are a lot of commodities that can only be tied down where they are supported, other wise damage will occur.
     
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  7. loudtom

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    I don't really agree that this qualifies under that segment, but it's pretty vaguely worded. If it must be fastened by special methods, I don't think leaving straps off of it counts as a special method. If somebody manufactured a product that couldn't be secured anywhere, you couldn't just cite this regulation and throw it on the deck and run it without any securement. Plus it looks like it can still fit 4 straps up front and 4 in back, or 5 up front and 3 in back to meet the standard cargo regulations for length.
     
  8. blairandgretchen

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    The front 4’ is a half round. The rear 12’ overhang.

    Just for you - @loudtom - I put an extra strap as circled.

    So 7 straps now, in 57’ of supported product.

    The first 2 are within the first 10’ of SUPPORTED product - the other 5 as acceptable by the manufacturer.

    Any idea how I can secure a half globe, or the overhang to meet the regulations ? All suggestions welcome.

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  9. Nostalgic

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    Weight isn't an issue, overall length is. I'd be tempted to use (2) 2" straps in place of a couple 4" to meet "Length/10+1". Half a twist and they won't flutter so you can be a little light handed on them and not crush/deform.
     
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  10. ElmerFudpucker

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    You guys obviously have never noticed how a bridge beam is chained down. You’re doing a fine job Blair.
     
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  11. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    As said - they take photos and videos of the secured load, touch up any fiberglass, and paint.

    There’s a chain of custody form to be signed off on from start to finish (off the truck) that is required for local authorities - remember these are sunk in the ground and hold 40,000 gallons of fuel. You betcha that everything needs to be perfect

    They’re double walled and filled with dyed brine. Any leak is quickly spotted visually, and built in valves and pressure indicators.

    They ship hundreds every year. I’m just the dumb driver that gets the relatively simple task of ‘Point A-B’.

    Im not about to stomp my feet, and refuse to load it unless I can do it my way in utter and complete compliance with regulations that were put in place as a general guideline for the average muppet that just got his CDL.
     
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