Truck's gone. Money's gone. Spot market fiasco.

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by FloridaRetired, Mar 11, 2025.

  1. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    An owner operator with his own authority, with 10 years of experience with the dry van on the spot market experienced a catastrophic failure of the motor and left the truck with loaded trailer at a towing company lot, unwilling to pay for their towing service in the amount of $2000, disgruntled and arguing that it was a rip off. The motor is seized, most likely due to a failed rod bearing, as he suspects. That’s not important. He has no financial ability to perform the repairs needed to make the truck operational again.

    His numbers were - poor to mediocre - for 2023 and 2024. In both years he ran between 70 000 - 80 000 miles, grossing not much more than $160 000 a year, which only left him with no more than $50 000 each year. That $50 000 also includes his own driver’s pay – that’s all the money left after fuel, insurance, whatever other costs bar his own salary. You cannot live off of that, let alone amortize the truck and trailer wear and tear.

    During the two years, he supplemented his inadequate revenue with savings and, I suspect, whatever money was left over from his, close to $100 000, EIDL loan. He has got only $10 000 in his checking account now. I advised him not to spend any of it on any Pensky rentals etc. to recover the load. Let the broker, who gave him the cheap freight, worry about it themselves. The brokers, I won’t disclose their name, are notorious for offering cheap freight and suggested he rented a truck to complete the load. He refused to do so because his livelihood is at stake, and I gave him my moral support.
    Truck's gone. Money's gone. The guy is mentally broke too.
    That's the beauty of the spot market.

    Brokers keep in mind that selling cheap freight will bite you in the butt eventually too.
     
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  3. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    I personally don’t understand how a single truck owner operator with authority can have realistic expectations of working the Spot market as a long-term goal. The Spot market is just overages. Real work performed is done with commitments to a customer. Brokered freight is just scraps that carriers cannot cover at the time. If you’re a single truck guy, consider your competition. If you are hauling and providing a service, which is very similar to what a large carrier can do, you’re not gonna outcompete them. They can make decent revenue at smaller margins by volume and stability. Simple fix is, if you’re Carrier which an owner operator with authority is… Service, a customer that has difficulties achieving their transportation needs from large carriers. The small carrier will make more money per mile, per day, -whichever way you look at it compared to doing the same kind of work a large carrier does. Short and sweet, Don’t rely on the spot market as the majority of income in your business. People say it over and over, Stop using brokers as your business plan! It’s fine to use them to fill in the blanks but it is a fiasco to be lazy and use them all the time.
     
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  4. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    At least he still has 10k. Real talk, you make more money driving someone else's truck these days.
     
  5. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    The Spot market started to resemble Uber taxi business. Too random. Too soulless. Too little reward for good service.
    Brokers might as well be called brokers for giving out rates that make owner operators broke.
     
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  6. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    I would rather have more say in the way I operate then drive for somebody else. But if that means using the Spot market as my main means of income and going out of business later on. I’d rather do as you say. It would make more financial sense just to drive for somebody who already has their own customers. What good is a false sense of freedom when you go out of business?
     
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  7. PPNLE

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    Friendly reminder that brokers don't want to have to sell freight cheap, either. 15% of 4000 is more than 15% of 3000.
     
  8. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    That's for sure...$50k?!...I bet a Swift rookie makes more.
     
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  9. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    I don't want brokers to be the only culprits about it but I guess it shows that eventually cheap freight affects all the parties involved, including the customers.
     
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  10. Judge

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    He didn’t have to take the cheap load.
     
  11. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    I would rather give up that sense of freedom of it means my other sense of freedom(financial) is secure. I'm totally with you here. In reality, whether you're a company driver, or an owner operator, something should be telling you what to do. If you're an owner, the market and running lanes will dictate your moves. If you're a company driver, probably a pencil pusher will determine your fate. Hopefully he lands on his feet somewhere.
     
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