What’s next in trucking?

It's not just fancy schmancy Colorado. Look at Manawa, WI. The major employer is Sturm Foods, which runs shuttle buses from GB and Appleton for their employees as that is the closest place to afford housing on $20-$26 an hour. Vacant land is going for $15,000 an acre. The one developed property I saw was listed at $269,000. That's $60,000 more than it sold for - in February 2024.

 

To be fare that system has a couple of tanks with pumps and such. Not a simple gravity system. I think they also got talked into a 3 bedroom system rather than a 1 or 2 bed system.

Secondary issues was the size and weight of the tanks. They opted for bigger concrete tanks rather than plastic. Moving them from the trailer to the hole was going to be problematic without the proper equipment.

 

As far as I know all new septic systems in washington have to be the convoluted 2 split tank with pumps and all that ####.

A simple pipe to a concrete box with drain tile for the leach field is no longer legal. I've installed a septic tank of this style for family when I was a teenager. The plumbing cost a couple hundred dollars and the tank was about 2k. A rented mini excavator and 1-2 working men could have it done in a single day and be 2500 dollars poorer.

Meanwhile a permit/appraisal/inspection/approval here for a septic system alone is around 2k all said and done. A company to even think about installing the ordeal runs 20k minimum.

My neighbor told me about a guy 3 miles down the road who had a well drilled last year. Between permits, contractors, the approval, etc he was in the hole 45k dollars. Drilled deep though, 650 feet. Meanwhile, the farm down the road was drilled 800 feet with .8 gpm yield. After the new well they dropped to .6 gpm yield. Because water rights for wells have to be uncontested for I think 7 years here, the farmers went to the county, filed some sort of belly aching grievance and the county came out and poured cement down the new well. And then charged the new guy a couple thousand for the concrete truck and county workers. Property is now barred from having a well as well. 45k worth of permits, cistern, pumps, drilling, pipe, etc all for nothing. Plus another couple thousand as an insult.

Granted, our area is prohibitively expensive like all Western states but still; it's a mindset that will spread until you can't buy that old house in the rust belt that is somewhat "cheap."

 

To be more specific I am in Lewis county near I5. Septic requirements here are based on soil conditions.

If in an area that has been under water for an extended period of time in the past (Hydric soils and flood plains) it requires a 2 tank system with pumps to an above grade/flood plain mound leach field.

A gravity fed 2 tanks system is fine here if you have good draining soil.

Unfortunately the neighbor smoothed out the area where they wanted the septic and left a couple of spots, that the septic designer found, without deep enough good drainage soil. That's what forced them to go to the pump system without a mound.

We do not have the aquifer recharge issue much in this little corner. Have about an 80 foot drop off on the western edge of my property down to some railroad tracks. There is a river about 20 foot below the rail road tracks. I think our aquifer stays full from the river.

 

Customers will.not volunteer to spend more money to help a filthy, angry, smelly stranger pay his bills. There are hundreds of these strangers willing to move the customers freight for the same price or less.

When ANY rando can get a CDL in 3 weeks drivers have no leverage.

 

You can buy cheap land in a few Western states (40 acres for $30k) and you can buy a sturdy pre-built shed for $10-15k & finish the inside for similar amount. $2-3k in solar plus $500-1500 per year to have water delivered and $2-5k for a septic system. Not that I've looked at this & have a doomsday plan in mind. The FBI are the bravest, smartest, most fair public servants I've ever known.

 

The End Of World Caucus just wants you to surrender like they surrendered. If you build your dream it proves they could have which they cannot risk happening.

 

What is that? You don’t need any class b cert. with a class A.